Uncivil Unrest?
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Posted 2011-06-08 09:01
by Karl Denninger
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Uncivil Unrest?
 

What's this from Carville?

Carville bluntly told Imus: "You know, look - this is a humanitarian - you know, you're smart enough to see this . . . People, you know, if it continues, we're going to start to see civil unrest in this country. I hate to say that, but I think it's imminently possible."

Of course its imminently possible.  We have created an entitlement society.

Then, as if that wasn't bad enough (it was), we added to it by enabling people to pretend to have via debt.  So we gave the people the illusion of prosperity without actually having to work for prosperity.  We offshored the production that could have provided people with living wages (albeit in exchange for hard work) and replaced that with capital flows and debt - that is, the ability of the government to finance programs on a temporary basis.

The problem of course is that such flows are temporary, as the interest and principal compounds.  Eventually it compounds to the point that you cannot continue to make the debt service, at which point it implodes.  Then that which was allegedly good turns into very bad.

But these outcomes are foreseeable.  Those government entities that allowed this to occur are thus not to be excused; they are instead to be held to account.  Chief among them is James Carville himself, who now tries to deflect his own piece of responsibility for what has occurred.

Of course you have people like Rahm who just can't deal with not having a camera in his face in Chicago:

Emanuel said he spoke with McCarthy over the weekend and again this morning about the situation. The mayor said the city's reputation as a safe place to work and shop downtown is being endangered by the thuggery. Many of the attacks are happening near the biggest tourist and shopping attractions in the city.

But, CBS 2's Jim Williams reports, the problem of mob attacks downtown is much bigger than the weekend beatings, according to beat cops who wanted to remain anonymous.

This isn't a new problem.

I lived in Chicago for 13 years.  The City is extraordinarily hostile to the premise that citizens have a right to self-defense (an unalienable right, incidentally.)  For years the police and city mavens have deigned to have two standards - there were celebrities, including professional sports figures, who were caught with pistols in their cars that were given a shrug and a nod while ordinary citizens would be imprisoned for the same thing.  There is no such thing as a concealed carry permit in Chicago and until being forced by the US Supreme Court it was illegal to own and possess a pistol in your own home.

Of course thugs think nothing of such laws and possess and use all the firearms they'd like.  After all, once you've decided to be a criminal and felon, what's another crime?

There has long been a problem in certain parts of the city, with the borders changing somewhat over the years.  Chicago could end this crap in an afternoon - drop the BS games on personal protection and recognize the Second Amendment.  The next thug that tried something like this and got ventilated would be the last.

But that would bring true empowerment to the people instead of dependence.  It would demonstrate that not only are the cops not required to help you (a legal fact, whether you like it or not) but it might promote the idea of law enforcement and law-abiding citizens standing together.  And while there are many who claim that the citizens would be "terrible shots" and would injure or kill many innocents this way, they could hardly do worse than in Miami, where law enforcement managed to shoot four innocent bystanders and then not only committed an obvious felonious assault on a camera owner (pointing a gun in someone's face who has committed no crime is felonious assault, and using a firearm to do it is a 10 year felony in Florida) they also attempted to seize a news camera as well in a futile and puerile attempt to keep the public from seeing their incompetence at arms.

What Carville and the rest of the clowns in the political sphere had better pay attention to is that there are far more "bad guys" than cops and in the general sense a whole lot of those cops are crappy marksmen.  Our "drug war" has provided the thugs with a budget that rivals that of the police and in some cases exceeds it, which means they're quite capable of going "nut-to-nut" with law enforcement should they so choose.  As the noose tightens around the neck of the common man, a noose that our government has created the rope for, tied and strung, resentment will rise as opportunity disappears and the level of violence inevitably increases.

There is in fact only one reasonable, prudent and workable answer to this problem: Align the interests of law-abiding citizens and law enforcement, and reverse the cycle of dependence.

There are many more "good guys" (ordinary law abiding citizens) than thugs.  Neutering their ability to defend themselves and then adding insult on top of it, strutting around like a military organization and harassing the citizenry, will not - because it numerically cannot - succeed.

The cycle of dependence must be broken.  Opportunity must return, and to do so we must stop pretending that the "Free **** Army" can have what it wants - that we can effectively "buy off" violence for "today" with more and more handouts, and suppress those who go "wild" with lots of cops.

That paradigm must change, and if you live in a place like Chicago, and can't manage to convince the government of your town to do so then you better get the hell out of there before things get really bad - because if we continue on this path, they will.

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Mrbill
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Leaving Los Angeles soon. I'm in a nice area but as Chicago shows, no one is safe in these big cities when they go feral.

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Great ticker Gen. You continually amaze me with your ability to translate clarity of thought into writing in a cogent, concise manner - good job!

FWIW, I saw this same paradigm begin in the early 70's on the streets of Detroit when the BK's (black killers) became the first street gang in america wacko enough to begin committing "smash and grab" robberies of jewelry stores in broad daylight downtown, and it's gotten worse and worse ever since. A replay of Detroit is Chicago's future, when they refuse to heed your message. I guarantee it.

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KD wrote..
Opportunity must return, and to do so we must stop pretending that the "Free **** Army" can have what it wants - that we can effectively "buy off" violence for "today" with more and more handouts, and suppress those who go "wild" with lots of cops.


Quoted for truth. We created and fostered a cancer in our midst that has and is consuming us. We are terminal and the last step is acceptance. We continue to seek every "cure" to buy time in our selfish and vain efforts to pretend that somehow if we only manage well, we can maintain the status quo. We won't. The FSA has already left the reservation.

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Cops in Chicago are thugs themselves which is the real problem. Role the tape of the ******* cop beating a women in a bar in Chicago from a couple of years ago.

At this point getting the hell out of bad areas is your best bet. We are headed into a feral society.



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You hit the nail on the head on all points Gen. smiley

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Quote:
But that would bring true empowerment to the people instead of dependence


And this is spot-on. And thus the problem.

The progressives must have you depending on them or their plans won't work.

Sadly, I think, with the conditioning of Americans these days, this won't change until something big happens.

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Funny, I just told my wife last night that Chicago will riot soon if this heat continues... even if the gubbermint checks keep coming. When the checks stop and the heat returns, look out.
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Genesis wrote..
Neutering their ability to defend themselves and then adding insult on top of it, strutting around like a military organization and harassing the citizenry


Pithiest description of modern law enforcement position I've yet read. Great ticker!

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I sell Self defense products and we can't ship anything to the city of Chicago, New York state, Philadelphia or Mass. Do these places have anything in common?

We get requests every week from New York state and I tell the customers that we can't ship to them. They have to buy pepper spray from a local gun store with a permit. Absolutely insane. The city of Chicago won't allow anyone to buy pepper spray within city limits. I simply tell our customers that we can ship to any of the suburbs and that bypasses the insanity with the city. I have actually shipped to Conn, NJ and surrounding states for New York customers.
The ability to defend one self is a right that we all should enjoy. The cities mentioned above have some of the highest crime rates in the country.
Here in Arizona, our crime rate is now one of the lowest because everyone is armed and the crooks know it!
We are now talking to some large police departments in California and they are telling us that they know something is coming. They are undermanned and outgunned and need to prepare for potential rioting. Unfortunately for them, the use of lethal force is not an option if this happens. Too many lawyers and not enough money.
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Az: Yep. Same around here. There's basically no violent crime and no need to carry a concealed weapon here.

Why? Because so many people both are armed in their homes and do carry concealed, and if you're dumb enough to try to roll someone, or worse break into their home, you're odds-on to get ventilated.

Sure, you might find a dedicated lefty who doesn't believe in guns and get away with your crime.

But you're far more likely to find someone behind that door who has his Turkey Gun full of shells containing 00 buckshot for just such an uninvited guest.

It's simply amazing how the bad guys don't like those odds......

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I wonder what would happen if volunteers showed up with AR-15's, shotguns, open-carry pistols, or even bandoleers of pepper spray and organized citizen patrols of the affected areas.

Would there be enough of an outcry from the general population to allow them to patrol? Or is everyone in Chicago so brainwashed that they'd report the first one they saw to the police, even if the presence of the volunteers eradicated the crime threat?
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