Indiana AG Zoeller: NO SALE, BOYCOTT INDIANA
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Posted 2011-05-20 20:03
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Indiana AG Zoeller: NO SALE, BOYCOTT INDIANA
 

I'm serious.

On the 14th I wrote on the following Indiana Supreme Court Decision:

Barnes contests that the trial court's failure to advise the jury on the right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers constituted reversible error and that the evidence was insufficient to sustain his convictions. We hold that there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.

The record shows:

  • 911 was called during a verbal altercation.  The statement was made that the defendant was throwing his own property within the apartment. 

  • No allegation was made that anything was thrown at the other occupant, nor that the defendant was destroying anyone else's property, nor that the defendant struck (battery) or threatened to strike (assault) any other person.

In other words, the original cause for the call did not allege an actual crime.  It is not illegal to destroy your own property.  It is not illegal to raise your voice.  Absent a colorable threat to inflict bodily injury or destroy the property of another person there was no crime alleged to have been in progress.

The 911 call dispatch went out as a factual fallacy: a claim that a "domestic violence" was in progress.  No such actual assault or violation of another's property rights was alleged by the caller.

Further, once the officers arrived the caller:

Mary came onto the parking lot, threw a black duffle bag in Barnes‘s direction, told him to take the rest of his stuff, and returned to the apartment.

The alleged "domestic violence victim" willingly interacted with the defendant and made no indication of an interest in police intervention.  She displayed no evidence of a crime against her person and never alleged there had been one, either at the scene or during the 911 call.

These facts are in the court record and are not in dispute.

Reed and Henry followed Barnes back to the apartment. Mary entered the apartment, followed by Barnes, who then turned around and blocked the doorway. Barnes told the officers that they could not enter the apartment and denied Reed‘s requests to enter and investigate.

The apartment is the "castle" of the defendant.  He barred the doorway.  The threshold is the demarcation between public and private space.  Absent probable cause to believe a crime has been or is about to be committed, the police officers had no right of entry.

There was no probable cause.

Reed attempted to enter the apartment, and Barnes shoved him against the wall.

He used no more force than was necessary to resist the unlawful entry.

A struggle ensued, and the officers used a choke hold and a taser to subdue and arrest Barnes.

The officers escalated the level of force and committed an unlawful felonious assault and battery upon the defendant using a weapon (the taser), along with an illegal arrest.

The AG's office is now trying to wordsmith and get cute.  Watch the outright lies from this individual:

"In supporting a rehearing, the State will continue to argue that Barnes' convictions should be upheld, but on more narrow grounds. We contend that under the circumstances, the police entry of Barnes' residence was legal: The officers responding to the 911 call sought to avoid leaving the alleged victim alone inside with the defendant after a confrontation outside.

The alleged "victim" failed to allege facts that, if true, would constitute probable cause that a crime had been committed.  In addition there was both no physical evidence of a crime and the alleged "victim" willingly went back into the apartment with the defendant, intentionally eschewing discussion or sanctity with the police officers.

The police officers had no right to demand their entry upon the defendant's private property.  What they "sought" is immaterial; their right to "seek" such is limited to that which is supported by probable cause that a crime either had been or was imminently about to be committed.

But there was no probable cause to believe that a crime had been or was about to be committed.  The facts at bar preclude such a finding and in fact the defendant was neither arrested or charged with any offense related to domestic violence.

So while there is no right to commit battery against police,

The defendant had the common-law right and the statutory right under Indiana law to prevent an unlawful entry into his home.  He did not need to close the door to assert that right.  His blockading of the threshold was an active denial of access and meets the legal requirements of refusing entry.

Absent probable cause the act of forcibly entering the defendant's apartment was a crime.  Using physical force, including a weapon, was a further crime.  Indiana IC-35-42-2-9 appears to apply to a "choke hold" and is a class "D" felony.  Battery with a taser is also a crime.

Indiana IC 35-41-3-2(b) states:

A person:
(1) is justified in using reasonable force, including deadly force, against another person; and
(2) does not have a duty to retreat;
if the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent or terminate the other person’s unlawful entry of or attack on the person’s dwelling, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle.

The entry into the residence absent probable cause was unlawful.  There is no evidence in the record that establishes probable cause that an assault or battery either had or was about to take place.  In point of fact the 911 call explicitly denied that either offense had occurred and the court record shows that the caller declined through her actions, despite proximity and opportunity, to interact with or seek sanctuary with said police officers when they arrived.  In fact she intentionally and willingly returned to the apartment with the defendant!

 I believe the individual has the right to shut the door, stand his ground and communicate with police without engaging in an altercation. In balancing the perils of domestic violence with respect for law enforcement, I will continue to advise our police clients to respect people's Fourth Amendment rights," Zoeller said.

You're lying Zoeller.

Barnes committed no crime; your officers, on the other hand, committed felonious assault upon him when they used the taser and placed him in a chokehold.  His arrest was also unlawful.

Your prosecution of this case has led directly to the Indiana Supreme Court overturning the entirety of IC 35-41-3-2, the key statute permitting defense of person or property, if they are defending against an unlawful entry by a police officer. 

Should this decision stand not only is the 4th Amendment destroyed in your state but in addition "open season" has now been declared upon the residents in your state, as criminals may now dress as if they are police officers and kick down doors.  Having no way to ascertain whether the putative "police officers" really are police officers, and having their right to defend against unlawful entry by police officers removed from both the Constitution and Indiana Statutes by the jackbooted act of your Court system as a direct and proximate cause of your outrageous prosecution of this case your entire citizenry is now placed at enhanced risk of home invasion and other unlawful activity, both by criminals and police officers.

In addition the Sheriff of Newton County, neighboring Crown Point, has declared that he will conduct warrantless random house-to-house searches if he believes they would be "helpful", relying on the Indiana Supreme Court decision as his authority to do so.

Update: This has now been disavowed:

"I guarantee that random searches will not be done in Newton County, Ind., while I am in office," Prosecutor Jeff Drinski said Thursday.

and"I want the citizens of Newton County to rest assured that no member of the Newton County Sheriff's Office will enter the property of another person without first having a warrant or probable cause to do so," he said in the statement. 

Ok - scratch Newton County.  The rest stands.

All of this is unacceptable.

Mr. Barnes sentence must be commuted and his conviction expunged.  He committed no offense; there was never an assertion of a criminal act in the original report nor was probable cause developed during the police response.  His act of defense of his home was lawful as the entry was unlawful under your Statutes, he has a right to use reasonable force to defend against that entry and his use of force was proportionate and only in the degree necessary to repel the invasion.  Your officers must be brought up on charges for the choke hold and taser use and tried by a jury to determine their guilt or innocence for their unlawful escalation of force in the incident.  Barnes is entitled to his medical expenses and other compensation for the harm done to him by that taser discharge, as the record shows he was transported to the hospital.

The Newton County Sheriff must be removed for his statement of intent to violate the 4th Amendment of the United States, a direct and intentional violation of his oath of office which requires him to uphold not only Indiana State Law but the United States Constitution.

The Indiana Supreme Court decision must be reversed; if they will not immediately withdraw it then impeachment proceedings must be convened to remove the justices who wrote this opinion and your office must take an appeal on this matter directly to the United States Supreme Court on an emergency basis under both the 4th Amendment and Article 4 Section 4 of the United States Constitution, as your Court has, with malice aforethought and intent, violated both.

The United States Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Indiana and other state laws that protect the right to defend against unlawful entry stand as valid, and unlawful entry does not become lawful without a warrant, hot pursuit or other legitimate exigent circumstance, simply because the police decide they want to "have a look around." 

Probable cause requires reason to believe that a crime for which arrest is authorized under statute has been or is about to be committed.

Until the above all happens I call upon all persons to:

  • Cease doing business with any firm domiciled in Indiana.  The Indiana police departments are funded by tax revenues.  No person should spend one dime in Indiana that could and will go to fund the jackbooted thugs in uniform found therein.  There is no reason for any person who believes in the Constitution to fund the intentional and malicious violation of citizen rights, including the right to be secure in one's home as guaranteed by the 4th Amendment.

  • Cease spending funds in Indiana.  No vacations, no gasoline purchases or hotel stays in the state, no trips to the Indy 500.  Nothing.

  • Tell the businesses in Indiana you refuse to do business with why and that you will not be back until the Constitution is recognized in that state.

It's that simple.  Not only is Zoeller's "statement" insufficient it is a further statement of intent to violate the Constitution and is flatly unacceptable.

Mr. Zoeller's phone number is 317-232-6310.

Governor Daniel's Office is 317-232-4567 and his fax number is 317-233-3378 if you'd like to express your opinion of this Attorney General's "press release."

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Excellent. Let's get the boycott list going.

Steak and Shake is getting a phone call Monday. I love that place but it's forever no more until this changes.

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I believe they will argue that Barnes "initiated" the "altercation" ... was the first to "use force" against the body of the other. While apparently true as a stand-alone fact, this ONLY occurred (apparently) after he refused entry and they attempted to push through.

Expect that fine point to be glossed over my the propaganda ministry and their media *****s.

Also, the ISC "Decision" is pretty Unambiguous and Far-reaching, no matter what kind of back-tracking they are attempting.

The AG & Daniels, if they were serious CONSERVATIVES (LOL), would be initiating Impeachment proceedings against the Judges for violating their Oaths and also initiating Disbarment as being unfit.

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The Indiana AG should have been putting the policemen on trial instead of appealing this kruft.
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Gen, do you know if Barnes' layers are going to appeal to Federal Court?

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Ask your doctor if boycotting Indiana is right for you.

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I will defend my castle with requisite force. I don't care what color the uniform on the other side of the door, or what "government" says the law regarding the matter is.

Make a stand. Period.

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I will defend my castle with requisite force. I don't care what color the uniform on the other side of the door, or what "government" says the law regarding the matter is.


On your own you don't stand a chance. The police will just gun you down. "discretion is the better part of valor" fight them in court and/or in numbers.

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Indiana cops are no different from any others in my opinion. All cops violate the constitution. Orange county has an official policy to deny Miranda rights since the worst that happens is that any statement is suppressed for direct use but can be used to impeach if the defendant testifies. This mess falls squarely on the courts.

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Here's what I just sent via e-mail to Holiday World, a family-friendly amusement park in Santa Claus, IN. We really were looking forward to going there. I sent a similar e-mail to Indianapolis Motor Speedway because we were considering going to the Brickyard 400. Feel free to use it with appropriate changes for whatever company you need.

I just wanted to let you know that we will NOT be visiting your park this year or at
any time in the future due to the Indiana Supreme Court's gutting of the 4th Amendment of
the United States Constitution through their ruling in Barnes v. the State of Indiana (ht
tp://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/05121101shd.pdf). We really, really wanted to
visit your park and compare it to Knoebel's, a park we have visited yearly for the past
10 years.

However, since we cannot lawfully resist entry by police into our hotel room, even
without a warrant or cause, and since Indiana Attorney General Zoeller and Newton County
Sheriff Hartman have both made incendiary statements on this issue (i.e.http://smargus.com
/indiana-sheriff-if-we-need-to-conduct-random-house-to-house-searches-we-will/), we
cannot, in all good conscious, spend ANY money in the state of Indiana that could in any
way support this government and its lack of knowledge, support, and respect for the
United States and its citizens. I know you did not make this ruling and perhaps you
don't support it; that doesn't matter. We will not be visiting Holiday World, we will
not be staying for two nights at the Best Western Lincoln Land Inn in Dale, Indiana, we
will not be visiting the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for the Brickyard 400, and we will
not be buying food, gas, souvenirs or anything else in the state of Indiana.

I just wanted to let you know. Even if I'm the only one who boycotts your state (and
it's a small but growing movement, so I don't think I will be), at least you know that
I'm not spending somewhere between $800 and $1200 dollars in Indiana this summer (or
anytime in the future) while this ruling stands and your government "leaders"
support it.

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The Indiana AG should have been putting the policemen on trial instead of appealing this kruft.


Donethat - there is such a thick, pervasive 'hero worship' that occurs everywhere when one mentions military or police, there is no way that would ever happen. In the eyes of the placated public, police are all that is good. People seem to forget these are the same 'my balls are so big I have to walk around them' bastards that allow other blue to speed all day long (off-duty) but will lecture to you like you're a criminal - no excuse good enough... I hate the hypocrisy - but that's precisely why so many (arguably MOST) people become cops.
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Your prosecution of this case has led directly to the Indiana Supreme Court overturning the entirety of IC 35-41-3-2, the key statute permitting defense of person or property, if they are defending against an unlawful entry by a police officer.


I don't understand how holding the guy convicted to a standard of non - violence after the fact when there is a law and centuries of case law to support his actions is not ex post facto (which is unconstitutional under US Constitution).
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Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause. Had they just left the scene or simply stayed outside and something did go wrong inside you know what would have 'hit the fan' as to why they didn't "do something".

Situations like this can go sideways so quickly and easily and once 911 was called they then had probable cause.
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I'm going to use my second, maximum allotted post to add -

Last year, Pasco County (FL) Utilities (government) took it upon themselves to enter onto the private property of every resident to inspect their reclaimed water system. 100% of the hook ups are in the easement at the front of the house. Yet, they entered my secured back yard - which has no easements at all. The walked all over the back, looking at everything I had out there. All of it was caught on my surveillance system - and promptly posted on YouTube (link to follow).

I hadn't noticed the incident until days later when I reviewed the recordings. I immediately contacted my commissioner, and uncorked on her. The Tampa police department is not even allowed to LOOK over a fence without probable cause - and not enter without a warrant. So, how can another branch of government simply enter at will?

The event caught the attention of a local news reporter (Mike Deeson) - who ran with the story. I think his fascination was with my security system, more so than with the violation of our rights.

Long and short of it - the County Attorney said "live with it..." Never could find an attorney willing to take up the issue.

Link to the story is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBYK9dcv7....
Link to the raw video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrRCe8P8....

By the way, talking about rights - I have a habit of flashing oncoming motorists if I know there is a speed trap up ahead. Last year I was ticketed for flashing my lights. The entire traffic stop was caught on video (link below) where trooper (who did well over 100 MPH to catch me) flat out lied - accusing me of doing things I clearly didn't do. And he charged me for a statute which does not apply to communication.

I did find an attorney out of Orlando that represented me in the initial kangaroo court - which was dismissed. He then filed a class action against the FL AG on the basis that such stops violated several federal and state constitutional rights - with proof that FHP is issuing 1.5 tickets per day on the same trumped up charges. That case is still underway.

Video for that stop is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed7xiZeWr....

Karl, I know both of these are a bit off topic, but it really helps people connect the dots that government - whether road-side stops, public works employees, county attorneys, or beat cops - they could not care less about our constitutional rights.

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Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause.


I think Dancing w/ the Stars or American Idol is on Tonight. Better check it out.

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"Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause."

You clearly need an old lady across the street that calls the cops at least once a day so you get a daily walk through and inspection for wrong doing.
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Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause.

Public education is working. This country is completely full of these dumb asses. They took over without firing a shot. Just as they said they would.

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Had they just left the scene or simply stayed outside and something did go wrong inside you know what would have 'hit the fan' as to why they didn't "do something".


Yeah, the police state lovers would have had a fit. Who ****ing cares?
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Thatjoeguy, you have obviously come to the wrong forum!

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In addition to Karl's call for an Indiana boycott:

I want to point out that sheriffs are elected officials and can be unelected when they make asinine statements, such as the Indiana sheriff threatening to conduct door to door searches.

Also, police departments are directly under your elected mayor's control. Start calling your mayors and let them know that you will not allow a police state to take over your town. Let them know that you will not re-elect any mayor who allows SWAT activity or 4th amendment violations. We need to put a stop to this on a local level, town by town, county by county.
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On your own you don't stand a chance. The police will just gun you down. "discretion is the better part of valor" fight them in court and/or in numbers.


That statement is the epitome of the pussified, collectivist nonsense that has allowed these types of abuses and assaults in the first place! WAKE THE **** UP!

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In addition the Sheriff of Newton County, encompassing Crown Point


Crown Point is the county seat of Lake county. Newton county is the next one to the south.

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Outstanding. This is one outstanding ticker. Major kudos.
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