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Drench
Posts: 28631
Incept: 2009-11-10
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Quote:Eli Lilly and Company Worldwide Headquarters
Lilly Corporate Center Indianapolis, Indiana 46285 USA Phone: +1-317-276-2000 http://www.lilly.com/contact/
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Drench
Posts: 28631
Incept: 2009-11-10
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Quote:Many of Indiana's largest and most recognized companies are headquartered in Indianapolis, including pharmaceutical manufacturer Eli Lilly and Company, wireless distribution & logistics provider Brightpoint, health insurance provider Wellpoint, Republic Airways Holdings (including Chautauqua Airlines, Republic Airlines, Frontier Airlines, and Shuttle America), REIT Simon Property Group, and retailer Finish Line, Inc. The U.S. headquarters of Roche Diagnostics, Technicolor SA, Conseco, First Internet Bank of Indiana, Dow AgroSciences, Emmis Communications, Allison Transmission, and Steak 'n Shake are also located in Indianapolis. Other major Indianapolis area employers include Indiana University Health, Sallie Mae, Cook Group, Rolls Royce, Delta Faucet Company and General Motors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapoli....
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Genesis
Posts: 130798
Incept: 2007-06-26
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Excellent. Let's get the boycott list going.
Steak and Shake is getting a phone call Monday. I love that place but it's forever no more until this changes.
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I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft. Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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Widgeon
Posts: 13481
Incept: 2007-08-30
Region formerly known as the United States
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I believe they will argue that Barnes "initiated" the "altercation" ... was the first to "use force" against the body of the other. While apparently true as a stand-alone fact, this ONLY occurred (apparently) after he refused entry and they attempted to push through.
Expect that fine point to be glossed over my the propaganda ministry and their media *****s.
Also, the ISC "Decision" is pretty Unambiguous and Far-reaching, no matter what kind of back-tracking they are attempting.
The AG & Daniels, if they were serious CONSERVATIVES (LOL), would be initiating Impeachment proceedings against the Judges for violating their Oaths and also initiating Disbarment as being unfit.
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Donethat
Posts: 771
Incept: 2009-04-22
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The Indiana AG should have been putting the policemen on trial instead of appealing this kruft.
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Orionstarman
Posts: 222
Incept: 2009-08-04
Kingsville MD
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Gen, do you know if Barnes' layers are going to appeal to Federal Court?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin http://www.enotes.com/history/discuss/what-does-this-quote-mean-they-that-can-give--84001
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Drench
Posts: 28631
Incept: 2009-11-10
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Quote:Here is a listing of our current marketed portfolio of medicines. For full prescribing information, please click on the respective product website links.
Cancer •Alimta® (pemetrexed) •Erbitux® (cetuximab) •Gemzar® (gemcitabine hydrochloride)
Cardiology •Effient® (prasugrel) •Livalo® (pitavastatin) •ReoPro® (abciximab) *
Cardiology/Pulmonary •Adcirca (tadalafil)
Diabetes •Byetta® (exenatide) injection** ** •Glucagon™ (glucagon for injection [rDNA origin]) •Humalog® (insulin lispro injection [rDNA origin]) •Humalog® Mix75/25™ (75% Insulin lispro protamine suspension, 25% insulin lispro injection [rDNA origin]) •Humalog® Mix50/50™ (50% Insulin lispro protamine suspension, 50% insulin lispro injection [rDNA origin]) •TRADJENTA™ (linagliptin) tablets***
Diabetic Peripheral Neuropathic Pain (DPNP) •Cymbalta® (duloxetine hydrochloride)
Men's Health •Axiron® (testosterone) •Cialis® (tadalafil)
Fibromyalgia •Cymbalta® (duloxetine hydrochloride)
Growth Disorders •Humatrope® (somatropin rDNA origin for injection, Lilly)
Neuroscience •Cymbalta® (duloxetine hydrochloride) •Prozac® (fluoxetine hydrochloride) •Strattera®(atomoxetine hydrochloride) •Symbyax® (olanzapine and fluoxetine hydrochloride) •Zyprexa® (olanzapine)
Osteoporosis •Evista® (raloxifene hydrochloride) •Forteo® (teriparatide of recombinant DNA origin)
Sepsis •Xigris® (drotrecogin alfa [activated]) http://www.lilly.com/products/Ask your doctor if boycotting Indiana is right for you.
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Resistance
Posts: 6162
Incept: 2008-09-26
Banned
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I will defend my castle with requisite force. I don't care what color the uniform on the other side of the door, or what "government" says the law regarding the matter is.
Make a stand. Period.
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"Why must political experiments always be in the direction of more government? Why not give the free market a county or even a state or two, and see what it can accomplish?"Murray Rothbard - The Fallacy of the Public Sector
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Orionstarman
Posts: 222
Incept: 2009-08-04
Kingsville MD
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Quote:I will defend my castle with requisite force. I don't care what color the uniform on the other side of the door, or what "government" says the law regarding the matter is. On your own you don't stand a chance. The police will just gun you down. "discretion is the better part of valor" fight them in court and/or in numbers.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin http://www.enotes.com/history/discuss/what-does-this-quote-mean-they-that-can-give--84001
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Shioda
Posts: 219
Incept: 2009-02-21
Newport Beach
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Indiana cops are no different from any others in my opinion. All cops violate the constitution. Orange county has an official policy to deny Miranda rights since the worst that happens is that any statement is suppressed for direct use but can be used to impeach if the defendant testifies. This mess falls squarely on the courts.
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Let the stupid bird fly first - Old Chinese Proverb
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Mari
Posts: 1012
Incept: 2010-03-05
Central MD
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Here's what I just sent via e-mail to Holiday World, a family-friendly amusement park in Santa Claus, IN. We really were looking forward to going there. I sent a similar e-mail to Indianapolis Motor Speedway because we were considering going to the Brickyard 400. Feel free to use it with appropriate changes for whatever company you need. I just wanted to let you know that we will NOT be visiting your park this year or at any time in the future due to the Indiana Supreme Court's gutting of the 4th Amendment of the United States Constitution through their ruling in Barnes v. the State of Indiana (ht tp://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/05121101shd.pdf). We really, really wanted to visit your park and compare it to Knoebel's, a park we have visited yearly for the past 10 years. However, since we cannot lawfully resist entry by police into our hotel room, even without a warrant or cause, and since Indiana Attorney General Zoeller and Newton County Sheriff Hartman have both made incendiary statements on this issue (i.e. http://smargus.com/indiana-sheriff-if-we-need-to-conduct-random-house-to-house-searches-we-will/), we cannot, in all good conscious, spend ANY money in the state of Indiana that could in any way support this government and its lack of knowledge, support, and respect for the United States and its citizens. I know you did not make this ruling and perhaps you don't support it; that doesn't matter. We will not be visiting Holiday World, we will not be staying for two nights at the Best Western Lincoln Land Inn in Dale, Indiana, we will not be visiting the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for the Brickyard 400, and we will not be buying food, gas, souvenirs or anything else in the state of Indiana. I just wanted to let you know. Even if I'm the only one who boycotts your state (and it's a small but growing movement, so I don't think I will be), at least you know that I'm not spending somewhere between $800 and $1200 dollars in Indiana this summer (or anytime in the future) while this ruling stands and your government "leaders" support it.
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I bleed purple and orange!
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Erkme73
Posts: 85
Incept: 2010-10-23
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Quote:The Indiana AG should have been putting the policemen on trial instead of appealing this kruft. Donethat - there is such a thick, pervasive 'hero worship' that occurs everywhere when one mentions military or police, there is no way that would ever happen. In the eyes of the placated public, police are all that is good. People seem to forget these are the same 'my balls are so big I have to walk around them' bastards that allow other blue to speed all day long (off-duty) but will lecture to you like you're a criminal - no excuse good enough... I hate the hypocrisy - but that's precisely why so many (arguably MOST) people become cops.
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Martin
Posts: 890
Incept: 2008-01-23
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Quote:Your prosecution of this case has led directly to the Indiana Supreme Court overturning the entirety of IC 35-41-3-2, the key statute permitting defense of person or property, if they are defending against an unlawful entry by a police officer. I don't understand how holding the guy convicted to a standard of non - violence after the fact when there is a law and centuries of case law to support his actions is not ex post facto (which is unconstitutional under US Constitution).
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Thatjoeguy
Posts: 1
Incept: 2011-02-17
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Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause. Had they just left the scene or simply stayed outside and something did go wrong inside you know what would have 'hit the fan' as to why they didn't "do something".
Situations like this can go sideways so quickly and easily and once 911 was called they then had probable cause.
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Erkme73
Posts: 85
Incept: 2010-10-23
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I'm going to use my second, maximum allotted post to add - Last year, Pasco County (FL) Utilities (government) took it upon themselves to enter onto the private property of every resident to inspect their reclaimed water system. 100% of the hook ups are in the easement at the front of the house. Yet, they entered my secured back yard - which has no easements at all. The walked all over the back, looking at everything I had out there. All of it was caught on my surveillance system - and promptly posted on YouTube (link to follow). I hadn't noticed the incident until days later when I reviewed the recordings. I immediately contacted my commissioner, and uncorked on her. The Tampa police department is not even allowed to LOOK over a fence without probable cause - and not enter without a warrant. So, how can another branch of government simply enter at will? The event caught the attention of a local news reporter (Mike Deeson) - who ran with the story. I think his fascination was with my security system, more so than with the violation of our rights. Long and short of it - the County Attorney said "live with it..." Never could find an attorney willing to take up the issue. Link to the story is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBYK9dcv7....Link to the raw video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrRCe8P8....By the way, talking about rights - I have a habit of flashing oncoming motorists if I know there is a speed trap up ahead. Last year I was ticketed for flashing my lights. The entire traffic stop was caught on video (link below) where trooper (who did well over 100 MPH to catch me) flat out lied - accusing me of doing things I clearly didn't do. And he charged me for a statute which does not apply to communication. I did find an attorney out of Orlando that represented me in the initial kangaroo court - which was dismissed. He then filed a class action against the FL AG on the basis that such stops violated several federal and state constitutional rights - with proof that FHP is issuing 1.5 tickets per day on the same trumped up charges. That case is still underway. Video for that stop is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed7xiZeWr....Karl, I know both of these are a bit off topic, but it really helps people connect the dots that government - whether road-side stops, public works employees, county attorneys, or beat cops - they could not care less about our constitutional rights.
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Widgeon
Posts: 13481
Incept: 2007-08-30
Region formerly known as the United States
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Quote:Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause. I think Dancing w/ the Stars or American Idol is on Tonight. Better check it out.
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Bagbalm
Posts: 4263
Incept: 2009-03-19
Just North of Detroit
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"Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause."
You clearly need an old lady across the street that calls the cops at least once a day so you get a daily walk through and inspection for wrong doing.
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Iou
Posts: 1027
Incept: 2009-03-16
The Twilight Zone
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Quote:Just from what you've posted here I'll simply say I believe they had probable cause. Public education is working. This country is completely full of these dumb asses. They took over without firing a shot. Just as they said they would.
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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."- Frédéric Bastiat
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Mrbill
Posts: 7857
Incept: 2008-10-19
North Carolina
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Quote:Had they just left the scene or simply stayed outside and something did go wrong inside you know what would have 'hit the fan' as to why they didn't "do something". Yeah, the police state lovers would have had a fit. Who ****ing cares?
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Mari
Posts: 1012
Incept: 2010-03-05
Central MD
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Thatjoeguy, you have obviously come to the wrong forum!
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I bleed purple and orange!
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Mlshawaii
Posts: 1785
Incept: 2009-05-13
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In addition to Karl's call for an Indiana boycott:
I want to point out that sheriffs are elected officials and can be unelected when they make asinine statements, such as the Indiana sheriff threatening to conduct door to door searches.
Also, police departments are directly under your elected mayor's control. Start calling your mayors and let them know that you will not allow a police state to take over your town. Let them know that you will not re-elect any mayor who allows SWAT activity or 4th amendment violations. We need to put a stop to this on a local level, town by town, county by county.
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Resistance
Posts: 6162
Incept: 2008-09-26
Banned
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On your own you don't stand a chance. The police will just gun you down. "discretion is the better part of valor" fight them in court and/or in numbers.
That statement is the epitome of the pussified, collectivist nonsense that has allowed these types of abuses and assaults in the first place! WAKE THE **** UP!
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"Why must political experiments always be in the direction of more government? Why not give the free market a county or even a state or two, and see what it can accomplish?"Murray Rothbard - The Fallacy of the Public Sector
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Goldbrick
Posts: 2946
Incept: 2008-01-23
Indiana
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Quote:In addition the Sheriff of Newton County, encompassing Crown Point Crown Point is the county seat of Lake county. Newton county is the next one to the south.
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"The higher I go, the crookeder it gets." --Michael Corleone
"Instead of cursing the darkness, light a CONgressman."
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Jake
Posts: 2037
Incept: 2011-05-08
Realville, an enclave in the former Constitutional Republic
Banned
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Outstanding. This is one outstanding ticker. Major kudos.
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