Trump should hire a conglomeration of experts that can "sell it" to the public and do such a large campaign that the MSM can not ignore it. He has the bucks (apparently) and I hope he'd be willing to do that for the country.
Custodialmoney
Posts: 395
Incept: 2009-09-19
The 'invisible hand' is in your pocket.
I just found this article. It is the first article that I have seen from the pro-Obama side which actually discusses the issues involved in being a "natural born citizen" and does not just claim "he was born in Hawaii, so of course he is a citizen".
I have not looked in depth into the logic of the article but it is more thoughtful about the constitutional issues then the others I have come across. It goes point by point into the various ideas about what a "natural born citizen" might mean and backs up its assertions with case law. The final sentence explains his resulting conclusion:
Quote:
So that's basically it. If you were born inside the U.S. to non-diplomat parents, then the Constitution, legal precedent, scholarly examination, the historical record, and common sense say you are a citizen who is qualified to run for president.
Everything You Need To Know About Being A "Natural-Born Citizen" May 12, 2011 11:04 am ET by Simon Maloy
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And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay / Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare / The lone and level sands stretch far away. -- Percy Bysshe Shelley
Custodialmoney, be careful, Media Matters is reading from the playbook set forth by the Congressional Research Service. Here is a good discussion of it here:
2dogs
Posts: 2931
Incept: 2009-03-25
Land of the Lost
As I posted before, John Jay's letter to George Washington makes the intent of the 'natural born citizen' clause perfectly clear. Anyone born a foreign citizen is not Constitutionally eligible. Obama was born a foreign citizen via his father. Obama is not Constitutionally eligible.
You can't defeat the combined effects of massive voter fraud, the Free **** Army, and the entire bought and paid for media complex. This nation is done.
Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
Jerome Corsi wrote..
Via Facebook I just submitted to WND for publication tomorrow TUES, May 31, the first of a 3-part series of articles on the criminal complaint filed last week with the FBI charging the WH Obama birth certificate is a fraud. The forensic arguments brought forth by the international scanner expert provide irrefutable proof the document is a forgery. BREAKING NEWS.
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That's good news Steph. I would never have believed that the wheels of Justice turn this slow... Also, I would never have believed that the struggle for righteousness was up such a steep slope. I have been involved in enough civil lawsuits to know that in a court of law - the truth means nothing. The judge/jury must render a decision based on facts.
Facts have a funny way of always showing up at the worst possible time for a defendant.
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"...But whenever we see things done wildly, but taken tamely, then the State is growing insane..." - Gilbert Keith Chesterton 1910
"I found a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works." - Alan Greenspan, October 2008
I just submitted to WND for publication tomorrow TUES, May 31, the first of a 3-part series of articles on the criminal complaint filed last week with the FBI charging the WH Obama birth certificate is a fraud. The forensic arguments brought forth by the international scanner expert provide irrefutable proof the document is a forgery. BREAKING NEWS.
Custodialmoney
Posts: 395
Incept: 2009-09-19
The 'invisible hand' is in your pocket.
My previous post was to point out, the first time that I found someone on the left discussing the correct set of issues. I was not posting the article to contradict the constitutional arguments previously discussed here.
Searcy17 has posted a nice article which demolishes the arguments which were in the article that I posted and also includes the quote pointed to by 2dogs.
Thanks,
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And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay / Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare / The lone and level sands stretch far away. -- Percy Bysshe Shelley
Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
Quote:
Author: 'Birth Certificate' prompts departure of White House counsel
The author of the best-selling "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President" charged today the resignation of White House counsel Bob Bauer is the result of his participation in the release of Barack Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth," which he fears would not stand up to the scrutiny of any serious investigation by the FBI, Congress or the media.
When the announcement about Bauer's departure was made today, the AP said he was returning to private practice and to represent Obama as his personal attorney and as general counsel to Obama's re-election campaign.
Jerome Corsi's new book, "Where's the Birth Certificate?," is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore.
He's being replaced by Kathy Ruemmler, a former assistant U.S. attorney.
The AP reported Obama praised Bauer, who before his White House post had defended Obama against lawsuits that challenged his eligibility to be president.
But Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., who authored the "Where's the Birth Certificate?" book that debuted at No. 6 on the New York Times best-sellers list after reaching No. 1 several weeks earlier at Amazon.com, said, "I think Bauer's resignation marks the beginning of the Obama eligibility cover-up starting to unwind."
Corsi believes Bauer "felt compelled" to resign because of the growing substance to worries that the eligibility issue will blow up into a full-scale investigation.
"Bauer sent Perkins and Coie attorneys to Honolulu to pick up from the Hawaii Department of Health what he believed would be two certified copies of Obama's 1961 long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate," Corsi said.
"When the White House released to the public the birth certificate in the form of a PDF computer file obviously created on Adobe software and a Xerox copy, Bauer realized the Hawaii DOH had participated in the fraud," Corsi charged.
Corsi said he had been tipped off early in February that a long-form birth document for Obama had been forged and that the document was to be released.
"The information came from a mole within the Hawaii DOH who had been examining the vault logbook for months," Corsi explained. "Until just prior to February 24, no Obama long-form hospital-generated birth record could be found in the Hawaii DOH."
Corsi, whose book also has ascended to the upper reaches of other best-seller tabulations, said that when Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie "could not find the Obama birth records he had been searching for and radio journalist Mike Evans said so in a broadcast repeated over a series of radio stations across the nation, a decision was made within the White House to use a forgery that may have been in the works since as early as 2008."
Corsi said he believes the scenario developed this way:
Obama and Valerie Jarrett wanted to continue the stonewalling strategy they had used since 2008, relying on the short-form Certification of Live Birth and having Hawaii DOH claim that long-form birth certificate copies were no longer available, not even to Obama.
Obama and Jarrett had planned to use the forged birth certificate as an October surprise, just prior to the November 2012 election, if the pressure on Obama's eligibility remained an obstacle to his reelection.
But this strategy was overruled by White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley. He determined that a birth certificate, if it existed, had to be released now – to prevent the issue from gaining momentum. "I believe both Daley and Bauer believed until recently that Obama was telling the truth and that the birth certificate was really there in the Hawaii DOH," Corsi said. "When they realized that the date stamp on the computer file of the Obama birth certificate that was put up on the White House website on April 27 was that morning, Bauer realized the White House was lying to say a scan of the original document was being released."
Pika-steph
Posts: 54694
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
Curiouser and curiouser...not the least of which, Mr. Corsi seems to be independently confirming much of what 'White House Insider' has been divulging over time.
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Phantomace
Posts: 6393
Incept: 2009-03-16
Las Vegas, NV, and your screen
Please get legs, please get legs, please get legs...
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"That was a little trick I call math. Oops, now I'm not emotionally invested..." - Dilbert The only good thing I have to say about Barney Frank is at least he's not breeding...
LINKS: Interview with attorney Stephen Pidgeon. Attorney Pidgeon claims he found a record for a name change from "Barak Mounir Ubayd" to "Barack Hussein Obama" on October 14th, 1982 in Skookumchuck, British Columbia. Attorney Pidgeon also discusses his new book titled "The Obama Error" which can be purchased here. The interview aired 6/3/2011 on TruNews Radio. - http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.....
Karl - with the FBI Complaint being filed, and more people working on this issue because of the extremely compelling evidence that the LFBC has been altered, can we get a pin on this? It's a PITA to keep trying to find it....and I think we're running the risk of multiple threads being posted because people forget this one is here.
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
Bohemian
Posts: 9658
Incept: 2010-07-27
California
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"The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice; you have owners. They own you. They own everything." - George Carlin
Thanks for that video Steph. It lays out the facts in the first ten minutes. (have not listened to it all yet) Sounds like the courts don't want to take up the argument about whether he should be President (because he is) but they might listen to arguments to keep him off the ballet though.
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Taxpayers witnessed a crime and stayed around long enough to get charged with it.
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama says his wife and daughters aren't "invested" in him being president and would have been fine had he decided against running for re-election. But he says they believe in what he's doing for the country.
Asked about his family's reaction to his wanting another term, Obama said: "Michelle and the kids are wonderful in that if I said, `You know, guys, I want to do something different,' They'd be fine. They're not invested in daddy being president or my husband being president."
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Taxpayers witnessed a crime and stayed around long enough to get charged with it.
June 14, 2011 - The state of Hawaii claims that the "birth certificate" for Barack Obama in its files – presumably the document that was copied and distributed by the White House – remains confidential. The image released April 27 by the White House was described by administration officials as "proof positive" of Obama's Hawaiian birth. At that time, officials in Hawaii's health department and governor's office refused to provide confirmation to WND that the image released by the White House accurately represented the birth documentation in the state's custody. Now, officials have refused to respond to a subpoena requesting the birth record, citing...
I don't care if it makes sense -- only if it makes money. -- Me Bank (n): See scam, fraud and theft.Eat a bankster -- they're low-carb. What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
Hawaii Deputy Attorney General Jill T. Nagamine refused to respond to a subpoena requesting the birth record: "These subpoenas would require disclosure of privileged or other protected matter, and there is no exception that applies to allow disclosure to you," she told Taitz. "Vital statistics records, such as birth certificates, are protected by strict confidentiality requirements under state law." Taitz wondered to WND just what kind of "privacy" would be under protection since Obama himself has put the document in the public domain. She said she would continue her case.
The birth certificate has already been made public ... so how can privacy and confidentiality attach? I can't believe it's so ****ing difficult to see the original BC. This is pure bull****.
Asimov
Posts: 103849
Incept: 2007-08-26
East Tennessee Eastern Time
That may be technically correct. Even if the obama has released it, that doesn't give them the right to do the same. Their rules say to the holder or executor of estate only.
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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity. If you trade based on what other people say, you will lose money. Especially what I say. I won't be held responsible. Festina lente.
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