"But It's All Money Printing!"
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Posted 2011-05-05 14:20
by Karl Denninger
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"But It's All Money Printing!"
 

Such has been the siren song for the last few months on commodities in general.

Despite my repeated warnings that markets aren't that simple, and that it has all been leverage - that is, cheap debt - that has powered them higher, nobody wanted to hear it.  "Gold is money."  "Silver is money."

Uh huh.

So are you going to tell me, my friends, that there has been an inflation and then deflation of roughly 20% - on the upward side in the last month or so, and on the downside in the last couple of days?

Gold is getting hit pretty good too:

Then, of course, there's oil.

How about "Dr. Copper"?  What's he saying about the economy?

"Cheap money" - that is, unlimited leverage - will drive markets higher.  For a while.  It creates speculative manias.  It creates the feeling of wealth.  It creates a "high", much like an addictive drug.

But it is not wealth.  It is not prosperity.  And it is not sustainable.

The real economy, on the other hand, continues to suck.  Gas prices have reached the point of demand destruction.  It's $3.96 for regular here today, although I'm sure with oil off $9 it'll come in over the next few days.

GDP was soft as well.  And the jobless claims numbers today?  Horrible.  Then there's all the "great news" over in Europe - Ireland, Greece, German production number misses and Trichet claiming "We have this guys.  Really, we have this."  Uh huh.

Are markets going higher?  Based on what?  Expectations on a forward basis and general bullishness are ridiculously high.  Profit projections are for $100 on the SPX for the year.  Really?  With all the input cost pressures already in the cake and unable to come back out for six to nine months?

This was exactly what I was warning about last August when this pattern began to be evident - that those who chased and continued to pile in would eventually get their heads cut off.

Sure, if you just bought with cash back then you're doing fine.  But far too many people did not.  They kept adding off their paper "profits" - margin debt is at extremely high levels, as people piled in more and more as prices rose.

Well, now there's a problem and it's especially bad if you're in a levered instrument such as the futures markets.

You buy a contract that controls $50,000 of the underlying with a margin of $5,000.  The contract's value goes up 10%.  You now have a 100% profit against your margin.  You take that and buy another contract.

What happens if the price goes back to the original level?  You're in trouble, that's what.

Not only is your original $5,000 margin "profit" gone but so is another $5,000, even though price just round-tripped up and then down!  That is, you're now broke as your entire original stake has evaporated into the ether, even though prices are right back to where they were.

If you think this isn't common, you're very wrong.  It is.  Traders blow up in this fashion all the time.  It's idiotic, but it happens on virtually every prolonged move where leverage becomes the gist of the action.  It happened to real estate speculators during the real estate bubble, it happened to tech speculators during the 1990s and now it's happening again.

Might this "stop" at some point before the market really unwinds?  It might.  But there's no guarantee that it will.  In fact, there's plenty of reason to believe it won't - that margin calls will in fact beget more margin calls.

In 2008, these sorts of margin-unwind trades are what fostered the instability that ultimately blew up in everyone's face.  The systemic imbalances in the system are worse now than they were in early 2008, and the policy response available to attempt to stop a collapse are nearly all spent.

Go ahead folks, buy the dip.  It's been a good trade for the last year or so, especially from August onward.

Just be aware that you're buying into a margin liquidation, and if the "Cheap Money" disappears, you're going to be dealing with a lot of sleepless nights.

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Always remember: it's "manipulation" when PMs go down, but it's "inflation" when they goes up.
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smiley

LLD on oil changed to $20 on CME? is that true??

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I'm smart enough to know I'm not smart enough to play around in this market... for now it's just:
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you see it as proof that you're right..

i kinda more see it as BB getting what he wants.. proving the commodity inflation was transitory and printing more.

QE3.. it's comin.

Ben cannot and won't stop until and unless wages rise.

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Quote:
You buy a contract that controls $50,000 of the underlying with a margin of $5,000. The contract's value goes up 10%. You now have a 100% profit against your margin. You take that and buy another contract.

What happens if the price goes back to the original level? You're in trouble, that's what.

Not only is your original $5,000 margin gone but so is another $5,000, even though price just round-tripped up and then down!



And if the market continues down your account is liquidated with the possibility of pushing your account value into negative territory.

I wonder how many silver traders have had their accounts destroyed this week?

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Cj +1

We have enormous liquidation in commodities, yet jack **** in /ES.

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Many.

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Cont: What you're seeing is proof that the commod trade was not a "QE will destroy the dollar" trade or anything of the like. It was simply leverage.

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These last days have definitely ass*****d quite a number of people - and most deserved it. Told dad to sell his junk silver when it hit $48.... Sigh. Not going to buy until it's under $10.

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The trillion dollar question is whether Ben will stop QE'ing and let the market adjust or will he continue with low rates and QE etc?

I want to believe that come July we will let the chips fall where they may, but I have given up on Ben doing the right thing. The next round of liquidity shenanigans will cause commods and stocks to resume their quick upward march.

For the record I have a mix of dollars in the bank and physical silver bought quite some time ago, so I'm well in the black on that. I can't predict the future so I'm hedging a bit both ways.

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Cont: What you're seeing is proof that the commod trade was not a "QE will destroy the dollar" trade or anything of the like. It was simply leverage.

So has Ben realized he can't force liquidity where he wanst it (housing)? Will Ben let the economy adjust this summer?

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It will eh? Has he stopped?

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I've been reading some metals forums. There are quite a few people that have taken HUGE losses. Some from buying near the highs (real losses) and some that ran their 401k accounts from a little over 100k to over 500k....and now back to 100k. To me, I'm glad that commodities are correcting. I suspect it is for the very purpose of justifying more QE, since TPTB have no intention to cut spending in any meaningful way....IMO

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Margin calls are nasty things. When they get rolling they are VERY RARELY over in a day or two.

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So this has nothing to do with the $ bounce? Nothing to do with the end of QE in June???
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Look at the change in silver margins and then you tell me.

If you're not using LEVERAGE (that is, DEBT) to speculate you don't give a **** about the margin change. Well, obviously a HUGE percentage of the people were doing exactly that and got their dicks cut off.

There's your answer.

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I'm still going to buy 50-100 ounces of silver when it hits the 20's. I'm buying strictly as a currency collapse hedge and will hold for the long run regardless of price in the future. I just could not in good faith buy into that insane bubble and still can't justify it until it's in the 20's. I'd rather buy ammo, rice and beans if silver continues upward.

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Ben Bernanke said commods were higher due to demand. Was he lying?

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So this has nothing to do with the $ bounce? Nothing to do with the end of QE in June???

Who the heck knows MN. Why are margin requirements being raised? Is the Market reacting to the upcoming end of QE and calling in the cheap money that was lent out in anticipation of rising rates?

The market is going to force Ben's hand. He's either going to capitulate and start QE3 or he's going to let the chips fall where they may.

How low will Ben let it go? Are we going to see Dow 5,000? Or does Ben fire up the helicopter at Dow 10,000? 9,000? 8,000?

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It seems to me we are switching gears here, ever since the announcementof QE2, the trade has been commodities. Now the market moves in a different direction.

Do we see a continued sell off in commodities? P

Why?

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Leaving silver out. Why oil and some others? Has there been a hike in oil margins? Why is oil down 10% today. Have the fundamentals changed?
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What fundamentals? Where has been the demand increase to support these prices? WHERE? Cushing has been ****ing FLOODED with oil for months!

Nowhere, that's where. It's all been bull**** across the board. You guys are new here, right? smiley

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I think physical silver / gold and paper markets might break off from each other for a while, since a lot of paper guys got "their dicks cut off". I don't think physical delivery price has changed that much? Although I am no expert at all here...

Meanwhile, in Finland: Despite pressure from Kokoomus in forming government negotiations, it seems like Finland will still refuse participation in Portugal aid package; True Finns steadfastly refuse, claiming it won't solve any of the problems - which was a shocker to media here who expected them to fall in line to get better position in government negotiations. Now there is danger for them to be left out totally, if they stick with their beliefs, but passing anything through parliament can become tough for any government formed then...

Also other parties seem to become more critical as well, since Portugal got more for less after Portugal refused the first proposed package. Trichet himself cries out for Finland to participate and "take responsibility", #%"% off Trichet, it's Portugals and banks that lent them too much responsibility, not ours. I really, really love this development; naturally what will / can happen is that we eat a lot of pain when markets adjust to reality, but the sooner it happens, the better.
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Karl, are you a bit surprised by the relative performance of equity compared to commodities during this selloff?
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I think there is a rational medium somewhere between - "Silver is going to be $10,000 an ounce and I am going to be filthy rich." - and - "It isn't money, it isn't spendable, and if you can't eat it it is useless."

I have a small quantity of dimes and quarters for trade if people won't take paper. I've been told by people who lived through currency collapse that small articles of gold jewelry traded easier than coins. People trusted a ring or earrings with a hallmark more than coins with which they were not familiar. I've bought my wife small pieces of jewelry for over 30 years.

Very few famines have ever been so severe you could not buy food. Most are a failure of local crops combines with a population with no cash. Most often subsistence farmers with no cash market.

Now it is true a pocket full of .22 long rifle cartridges may serve as well as silver dimes. Got those too. But the very very worse I see happening is reverting to a 1930's sort of economy with some things like cell phones never going entirely away. Mad Max and chasing gasoline tankers isn't even a good movie. Not going to happen. But having several sorts of portable wealth is not stupid.

Buying it on margin is simply gambling. I'm not condemning gambling. My mom used to go to Vegas three weeks a year and play poker. But I know I'm no good at it.
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