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Imustbenutz
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Opening the document in Photoshop and zooming in reveals a great many quirks. And again, this is a Certificate of Live Birth, not a Birth Certificate. Where is the birth weight, the length, the footprints and the other elements normally found on a Birth Certificate?

Let's get Trump to start demanding Barry Soetoro's college transcripts and/or his actual Social Security number!

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Nobody cares.

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strings brings up these interesting lines:
(Mac OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext)
(D:20110427120924Z00'00')

Is that the date the PDF was created? 4-27-2011 ?

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One more thing.

Since the WH thinks it's fine to write pure bull**** on official forms,

I say every American should be free to write whatever they want on federal forms with impunity.

Let's start with 'federal taxes payable' and enter ZERO, shall we?

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jeffrey, I can see the layers in inkscape
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What this does....

Indep/swing voters- It will be enough for them

Right wing and southerners (who poll hard on this issue)- Keeps it alive...oh and it gives Trump a huge boost

Obama is calculating he wants to run against TRUMP/BIRTHERS rather than Romney/Economy or Teaparty/financial responsibility

HE will paint the right as a bunch of conspiracy NUTZ and the independents will buy that line of thought (from the polls)
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$100 say the download file will change within the day.

Karl: If you draw guidelines on each line where the typewriter text is, how come the text doesn't line up horizontally? (1a, 5a, 5b) And in box 20 and 22, if that's a stamp, and someone stamped it at angles, why is the text perfectly vertical?

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It's always the cover up that gets them. If this document can proved to be a fake, he's done.

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Interesting - the "accepted dates" have the same inking characteristics of the registrars attestation.
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For the record, the images I have seen of the real long form in use at the time all say Certificate of Live Birth.

Edit - Here's one:

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcer....




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Quote:
(D:20110427120924Z00'00')


date, time and location? maybe

When did this thing get posted at the WH? After 12:09 PM? Or before? If it was before something is weird as it was done by a computer in another time zone.

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Wow! Are you saying Trump might actually be right? Obama wasn't born here? Don't think you need to get Trump on the line. He has people who can figure out this document has been altered. It's what he does with the information that is in question knowing that most people in the country will believe the document is valid.
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Emb, I'm with you, this was INTENTIONAL, my thinking is it's just a diversion to cover real news.
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if Trump drops this issue now— than I'll know he was a plant as Trump isn't stupid enough to believe this POS document

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Wow. Great work, Karl.
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date, time and location? maybe


Macs run the system clock on Zulu time (i.e. UTC). 20110427120924Z00'00' means 2011-04-27 12:09:24 UTC, which is 07:09:24 EDT.

The layer work looks very suspicious. I wonder if the thing wasn't white ink on green security paper, and the White House didn't try to "help" the public read the thing. Very, very strange.
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Lostinspace said:
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...most people in the country will believe the document is valid.



Yes. CNN has been taking this as final proof of Obama's U.S. citizenship. Now, anyone who speaks out that something is wrong will be considered even more of a nut than before.
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Quote:
D:20110427120924Z00'00'


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date, time and location? maybe


Correct.


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The man has been in a zone all week.
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duh, of course, the Z and greenwich long.

good explanation kypackrat

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i've used photoshop since the day it came out...i have had to 'create' docs like this (for legal reasons)...we need a 'valid' hawaii birth cert from this period to look at to really see if this was altered today or 50 years ago. there are many other areas of the image that are weird when you go to a pixel level which is where you need to be to look for inconsistencies...you cant fake below a pixel level and it is realllly hard to blend at that level complex images.....could be fake or just a really bad scan with an old doc....?

i still go with the 'why did you spend $2mil dollars to hide this' as my reason to think he is hiding his passport status etc
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For the record, the AP has released a different version of the PDF:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap....http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap_obama_certificate_dm_110427.pdf[/url]

It looks a lot more like what I've seen of the Hawaii's certificate of live births, reversed back to black on white.

Reason: Fix URL
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Tenerre - Here is a copy of one of the Nordyke twins birth certificates. This has been widely accepted as an original, unaltered copy. The Nordyke twins were reportely born just before Obama at the same hospital. I also note that the Nordyke BC has a different address for the same hostipal listed on Obama's BC released today.



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