Aw Crap: Jobless Claims
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Posted 2011-04-14 08:39
by Karl Denninger
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Aw Crap: Jobless Claims
 

So much for the games....

In the week ending April 9, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 412,000, an increase of 27,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 385,000. The 4-week moving average was 395,750, an increase of 5,500 from the previous week's revised average of 390,250.

That ain't good.  What's worse is the unadjusted number:

The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 443,503 in the week ending April 9, an increase of 89,686 from the previous week. There were 514,136 initial claims in the comparable week in 2010.

Aw crap.

In the hindsight mirror, here's the "big table" - this is going to get worse in about two weeks.  A lot worse.

Have a nice couple of weeks - the "aw craps" are going to start piling up again.... right about when I thought they would (nine months from last August is.... about now.)

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Bagbalm
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Figured it was more than Obama tipping the "2" up there...
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KD, I read daily and agree with most everything but maybe once a year you could find something positive to blog about. Maybe I missed that day.

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Green shoots!

I'm sure the blame will go to the Japan earthquake, or more snow, or sun spots.
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Is the August date a reference to folks rolling off of extended unemployment bennies, i.e. the 99-ers finally running out?

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No Zappa, it goes back to when I started talking about the inflationary pressures and flow-through events.

The typical lead time from when you see the indications in the PPI to when it flows through and starts horse****ing the economy is approximately nine months. This also means that once it's happened and you sat on your ass and did nothing (as The Fed did) there's not a damn thing you can do about it, as whatever you do to "fix it" also takes nine months.

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Has the economic threat level just increased? Yikes.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I've always used the rule of thumb of 8mo.

Looking at our current commod prices, I can't believe what we will be seeing in another 8mo.

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Ben said inflation is transitory. He has a PHD.

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Gen: "The typical lead time from when you see the indications in the PPI to when it flows through and starts horse****ing the economy is approximately nine months. This also means that once it's happened and you sat on your ass and did nothing (as The Fed did) there's not a damn thing you can do about it, as whatever you do to "fix it" also takes nine months."

KD, don't you think this time, it might be slightly different? I think we may have to look at the "third world" economies for clues. If a producer can't price an item above cost then we develop shortages--right?? Thanks for site!
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As I said in a previous thread, I'm so tired of the numbers spinning. PPI comes out with a number then revises it down. Why can't they give us the right number the first time? Also, when they lie about the first number, how can you believe the second one? This govt makes me want to puke!

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382 must have been revised upward to 385 after 388 was revised upward to 390 something. The upward revisions would make a nice weeks worth after a year or so. Makes you wonder what this one is going to be revised up to?

Maybe it will be revised downward? Think the government might be wanting to make a plea for more stimulus, stating the strong economic recovery they keep boasting about isn't so strong and could be killed with budget cuts?

As far as the PPI goes? I just wrote a post based on what I perceive I read in the weekly commentary of John Hussman. Hussman quotes Plosser of the Fed, who is talking about a swift move to 2.5% on the Fed funds market, which would be accomplished by selling $1.25 trillion of their security holdings. Maybe through the looking glass, the Fed has solved part of the banking equation, restoring the holdings of treasuries through the back door. Treasuries equal reserves in banking. They also equal immediate liquidity, something the crap the banks were originating didn't equal. What they don't equal is solvency and the system is insolvent and the bankers won't gain solvency until the system does. Being the capacity to survive financial hardship revolves around being able to write a good check, I doubt the bankers are going to go too far out in the limb, once the market reverses. Holding onto day to day solvency might be the difference between going to prison and living a happy retirement.

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DOOOPPPPPP....

(Or is that 'DOPE'?!?!?)

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