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Morla
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The charge may be incendiary, but it is also 100% consistent with how he handled the BP spill - ignore the demands of the crisis and use the opportunity to push his energy agenda.

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"So is Obama's job to make everyone hate USA?"

I often thought that about Bush....

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Whoa...the HuffPo picked it up....

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So is Obama's job to make everyone hate USA?

Nah, Bush already did that. Obama's job is to throw salt in the wound.
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It's the Chicago way...

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where did the huffpo link go?

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Guys, this is all about keeping the Japanese under our thumb. Forcing them to get rid of their nukes puts their entire society at our mercy. We could blockade their energy imports, destroy their economy, and they'd be starving within months.

Of course, we'd never do something like that.

... Oh, wait.

Then there all of the "green energy" and global warming looting operations.

This country is run by gangsters for the benefit of banksters.
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Actually the huffpo link I put up I removed because it appeared to be just a link to the BBC story in their comment section.

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Maybe after the 9.0 earthquake and Tsunami their reactors were ****ed either way.

Did the Russian or Chinese put their people and resources at risk? The French or English? Where is Guy Daly????

Maybe the rest of the world was telling them the same thing? The safe thing might have been to shut everything down and I am not seeing how things would have been to much different.

This board is not full of altruist so I am finding this thread interesting.
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Blargerz wrote..
I am missing something. Why was dismantling the reactors not a good idea?

To me it's not the condition of dismantling the plant that irks me, it's the fact there is a condition at all. I'm ashamed.

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So when someone is facing the effects of a natural disaster, and they can save themselves with, oh, a nice big fat generator, you have a discussion about whether a policy change should be made as part of offering that which you happen to have laying around and can get on the ground, with the crew to run it, within a few hours?

You know if I come across you in peril on the high seas I have a legal obligation to help you (to save life, not property - that is, I don't have to save your boat but I must save you) if I can do it without placing my vessel or the people on her at risk.

That's an international legal obligation - it's not a US thing.

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What would be US administration motive to request such a thing?
Something does not add up. We do not know the whole story. I am not ready to draw any conclusions. Disclosure: I am not O's supporter.

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Boiled_frog:

"We'll send help as soon as you agree to permanently shut down your nuclear reactors"?

That's not the normal way that help is offered in a crisis.

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Wawawa: Pushing obama's green energy meme.

He used the BP oil spill over and over for the same reason. Still is.

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Not sure exactly how smart it would be to bring in a nuke sub for power. After the tsunami, the water would be full of debris, which could interfere with the sub cooling system... Yeah it sounds good until you start thinking about what might be lurking in the water.

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You guys are reaching. It was not a policy change it was difference of opinion on how to handle the crisis.
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Wawa wrote..
What would be US administration motive to request such a thing?
Are you being purposely obtuse, or can you not read. The photo in the Ticker is pretty plain: The Green Agenda. He couldn't get through Cap & Trade, but he sure as hell can put it back on the table if nuclear power is completely removed from our energy sources. We have relatively few nuclear plants, but they generate a disproportionately HUGE amount of power. Germany shutting down a number of its plants in the past few days resulted in an instantaneous 16% increase in their energy costs! This is not a trivial amount.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4s....


Not to mention, there's a whole lot of people, including Fannie Mae, that would love to see the resurrection of carbon trading.

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You guys are reaching. It was not a policy change it was difference of opinion on how to handle the crisis.

Then why is the State Department denying it?

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How does this benefit him? Other than he's out of touch?

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Maybe it had something to do with this?
Fukushima Nuclear Plant Scheduled #1 Reactor to be shut down on March 26th 2011 just 14 days of when it exploded. http://www.icjt.org/npp/lokacija.php?drz....
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Has this video been posted before here? I'd like Karl's thoughts.. The explosion at reactor #3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_N-wNFSG....

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and why are senior Japanese officials leaking this information at this time?

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Reaching? It was a blatant attempt to impose an "opinion" (policy).

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Obseedian wrote..
Then why is the State Department denying it?
Denying what? Have they addressed this assertion somewhere?


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