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This isn't a video game make believe anarchists.


Get real.

The minute violence breaks out it will be blamed on the tea party and other right side of the aisle groups.

Wake up.

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Steerrrike one!

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The minute violence breaks out it will be blamed on the tea party and other right side of the aisle groups.


This is exactly why I don't think it is a good idea to go to Madison for a counter protest.


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Hey Jschurchin, I grew up in Pittsburgh when the steel workers union laid off everyone under age 50. Hope you look forward to your long unemployment when your union eats their young.

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Jschurchin wrote..
Hate to burst your bubble there clueless, but scared is not what we are becoming.*****ed and had of enough of the Corporate/Fascist mentality of the Republican party is what we are becoming.
And if takes shutting down Wisconsin and the rest of the Nation, so be it. This is what the dip**** Republicans are asking of the men and women who actually work for a living.

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An union leech is making threats. Bahahahahahahahahaha

EABODADIAF rube.

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Geez, where are all these "5-post since signup" union shills coming from? They're pouring out of the woodwork, having been silent since signing up in 2008 & 2009.

OK, here's my contribution to this thread. I found this website the other day while looking for info on the public sector pension implosion:

http://sunshinereview.org/core/home

"Bringing state & local government to light"

http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Publ....

Look for the "State unfunded pension liabilities" table in the body of the webpage.

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This isn't video game make beleive anarchists.


Get real.

The minute violence breaks out it will be blamed on the tea party and other right side of the aisle groups.

Wake up.


Many here are awake, but I don't think the quite understand what revolution/collapse mean.

You can't stop it. Not now. To stop it you have to halve EVERYTHING this minute! Medicare, pensions, social security, defense, state, federal, everything sliced in half. Maybe then we could get ahead of interest rates.However, when they want to take as little as 5% away look at the circus that happens. That is a small fraction of what we need to stop the spiral and things are getting out of control already. It's already over, but the credits haven't started playing yet.

Thats the biggest joke of them all about the debt. People look at 14 trillion +2 more every year and think its just a number. When in reality it almost ensures a world or civil war within 20 years.
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Geez, where are all these "5-post since signup" union shills coming from? They're pouring out of the woodwork, having been silent since signing up in 2008 & 2009.
THEY'RE BEING PAID. http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=180....


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Lowbeyond, I saw EABODADIAF and thought, damn, I'll never get that.

Got it on the first try in just a few seconds, and while I've never quite heard the phrasing put together like that, I completely and whole heartily agree with your sentiments!

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If you trace the chain of this problem to the top, I think one of the first and easiest changes to make that would help alleviate this problem would be by capping the years of service for congress and senate. The “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” mentality is what snowballs into the **** we have now. People in power wanting to keep and gain power. It’s human nature that if you have to choose what’s best for you vs. what’s best for others…the majority of people think of their own survival first.

For-profit sector unions are ok, because it’s a group of people fighting over slices of THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL pie. There is no place for a public union however do to the structure of government.

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Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said he has asked the guv to send a state trooper to the home of Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller, D-Monona, to see if he was there.

Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, acknowledged the trooper would not place Miller under arrest if he was found at home, but hoped the move would force the Dem to realize the seriousness of the situation and return to the Senate.


http://wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article....

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*****ed and had of enough of the Corporate/Fascist mentality of the Republican party is what we are becoming.


I will tell you the same thing I have told some of my friends and many co-workers. Some are union and some are not. Be careful and tread lightly my friend. Because when your neighbors that are hungry and un-employed see you pull up in that nice new shiny $60k pick up and then tell the local news channel you want more... well you do the math. Your scare tactics will backfire on you at some point.

At that point "Your people" are going to turn on you. By that time NO one is going to help you. Let me know how that works out for you my brother.

You are are quickly losing the public support you once had. So explain to me again how what you are doing is any different from what you claim the corporations are doing?

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yeah, i got that in my first try as well. i was proud of myself.

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In terms of real-world fundamentals, I expect that most of the people around me, whom I work with day to day, and whom I pass on the street ... will be dead within five years.
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WALKOUT: Milwaukee Schools closed; High number of absentee teachers...

Protests Spread to Ohio...
Michigan...

'Coming To Minnesota'...
Drudge headlines

It's going to happen outside the Unions too. People are not going to put up with everything being stole from them. And the Unions are the least of our worries (they are just the leading edge of the wing), wait until the bankers get the the poor to burn down the middle class. Then they will sit back, take another QE? and say look at those dumbasses. WE stole neverything and they are blaming each other, Ha!

It's just starting!


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Yeah, Michigan's new governor just issued the 'bring it' challenge. http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=180....

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I think one of the first and easiest changes to make that would help alleviate this problem would be by capping the years of service for congress and senate. The “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” mentality is what snowballs into the **** we have now.
Sounds good but the trouble is, it's like trying to get them to approve term limits on themselves.

Just isn't going to happen.
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which is the ultimate proof in the point that given the choice they'll think of their survival first.

George Washington had a reason for voluntarily stepping down after 2 terms.

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In terms of real-world fundamentals, I expect that most of the people around me, whom I work with day to day, and whom I pass on the street ... will be dead within five years.
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And Rush is leading with this story for a second day.

Says the tipping point has been reached.
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It's going to happen outside the Unions too. People are not going to put up with everything being stole from them. And the Unions are the least of our worries (they are just the leading edge of the wing), wait until the bankers get the the poor to burn down the middle class. Then they will sit back, take another QE? and say look at those dumbasses. WE stole neverything and they are blaming each other, Ha!


Don't try to pass yourself off as a savior of the middle-class. The middle-class is dying precisely because of you union parasites. In fact, the unions support the same president who is in bed with Wall Street.

Wake the **** up.
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Yeah, Michigan's new governor just issued the 'bring it' challenge.


Yep, everything's coming down now to the size of the individual states' governors' balls.

Does everyone understand now why state and local politics are MUCH more important to be involved in than the federal bullcrap???

I would even go so far as to say that federal politics are becoming irrelevant (see posts above ;)

The states are our last line of defense.

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Obummer seems to be having a bit of trouble realizing the predicament he's placing himself in. In Wisconsin, we have an executive who can't get any cooperation from the minority party. Guess who is in the executive spot in DC?

Tit for tat.

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Fidg - Right now, the jury is still out on the actual size of Rick Snyder's balls...perhaps they are a bit larger than mouse size. We'll see. The only thing this guy has going for him are two things:

1. He's not Granholm.
2. He's not a politician.

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"Don't try to pass yourself off as a savior of the middle-class. The middle-class is dying precisely because of you union parasites. In fact, the unions support the same president who is in bed with Wall Street."

Hey guy, I don't belong to a union! I live in Texas!***** off! You can't even Grok a simple but true argument without assuming crap about someone. Go protest Goldman, and get off my back.


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Exactly why I said that WHEN (not IF) violence breaks out...it will not be us vs. the government (the real enemy), but us vs. us (we've long missed the window where we should have stormed DC, it's too late for that now)...and those of us who are productive in this country are FAR outnumbered by those who live off of our labor.

Peaceful protests in DC (or anywhere) by those of us who contribute to the system would simply be turned against us for wanting 60%+ of Americans to starve after we've "made our fortunes".

Their job is so easy now...simply pit us against each other ("Republicans want "hard working people" to starve...are you gonna let them?!" "Democrats want to steal everything you make, are you gonna let them?!") and they'll sit back and watch while the economy crumbles as we've all predicted. They won't even get the blame because we're going to be too busy fighting ourselves to blame the bankers and the government for looting this country dry...and THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT.

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