Ok, What's The Real Story? (WFC)
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Posted 2011-02-09 08:27
by Karl Denninger
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Ok, What's The Real Story? (WFC)
 

Hmmmmmm..

Wells Fargo & Co. Chief Financial Officer Howard I. Atkins resigned for personal reasons, taking an unpaid leave of absence, and will be replaced by Chief Administrative Officer Timothy J. Sloan.

Legitimate reasons to do this include your diagnosis with terminal cancer or that of a close family member.

Every other reason I can come up with repudiates this:

Atkins’ departure, effective immediately, “is unrelated to the company’s financial condition or financial reporting,” according to a statement yesterday from the San Francisco-based bank.

We'll see.

I'm skeptical.  Wells has a metric crap-ton of dodgy garbage on and off balance sheet, and I have often written about it.  Nobody has a damn clue about the real value (or lack thereof) these assets have. I have long pointed out that of all the major financial institutions Wells is the most exposed, simply because in terms of its capitalization it is the thinnest of the majors when one looks at the off-balance sheet and potential contingent liabilities that are represented in those alleged "assets."

Of course the other side of that coin is that if the assets are good, then they have excellent prospects.

This is the conundrum for anyone trying to analyze these companies.  You can't.  You have to take the word of management that the alleged "assets" they are holding are good, because there is no longer any need to use market prices in a post-Kanjorski-threat-laden world.

I refuse to take management's word for anything, because we learned during the Lehman and Bear Stearns period that even when management is well-aware of adverse information they will either withhold it or twist the truth, in no small part because nobody in top management has been indicted for anything during the entire period of this financial mess.  Remember that we were told by Fuld that he was going to "Burn the Shorts", that Wachovia was perfectly sound, that WaMu was perfectly ok in paying out dividends from capitalized interest, that Countrywide was going to be the only mortgage lender of relevance when the dust settled and more.  All of these statements were utter crap and while Mozilo has been sued nobody has gone to prison.  Not one of them.

These people don't give a good damn if someone sues them.  It's not their money.  The company defends them and the suit, and if they lose, the company pays the judgment.  Screw that.

The only effective means of ever policing unlawful activity is found in the threat of decades of prison time with a cellmate named "Bubba" who likes boys.  A lot.

But that threat has to be credible, and today it simply is not.  The major financial institutions of this nation have repeatedly admitted or been caught red-handed engaged in various unlawful things, including running drug money, funneling money to Iran and getting involved in hinky sewer-bond deals with Jefferson County, and while a few underlings here and there may be prosecuted senior management never is.

No risk, no reason not to play games.

I don't like any financial institution for the simple reason that it is impossible for me to analyze the company without trusting management's claims of value, and I don't trust management as far as I can throw them, because recent history says that if they lie nothing will happen to them while I will still lose my money.

When a top executives leaves on no notice and without a detailed and accurate explanation?

Stinks like dead fish.

No matter how many press releases they put out claiming otherwise.

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This one's a big 'un.

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Note that it's an "unpaid" leave. When the hell does that ever happen unless you've been caught with your pants down either literally or figuratively ?

Either the guy did something majorly wrong that's going to hurt Wells, or he was threatening to whistleblow or leave anyhow due to illegal activities at Wells.

Take your pick.

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Does the full end-of-year audit count as a "personal reason"?
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Stumpf wrote..
He leaves behind a Wells Fargo that remains financially strong and wholly committed to its strategy of helping all its customers succeed financially.

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Note that it's an "unpaid" leave. When the hell does that ever happen unless you've been caught with your pants down either literally or figuratively ?

When you have used up all your paid time off and go on family (personal) medical leave of absence. In which case, that would lend definitely credence to him being ill. What exec uses all his paid time off?
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Maybe.

We'll see if that's the case. If it is, then how come there was no 8K on the illness? He's a key man in the corporation, no?

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He did not want to end up like Jeff Skilling.

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"I don't like any financial institution for the simple reason that it is impossible for me to analyze the company without trusting management's claims of value, and I don't trust management as far as I can throw them, because recent history says that if they lie nothing will happen to them while I will still lose my money."

This is the fundamental problem of the age...

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Taking up poition outside of the modelled blast zone radius?

Wells Fargotozero ?

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Tangentially related question: so if you have original promissory notes endorsed in blank and undated, thus bearer paper by UCC, and then report those notes lost, stolen, etc, and foreclose using the lost note affidavits, while actually still having the bearer paper; did you not just counterfeit the asset, since you still have the bearer paper, and now the collateral as well? As long as nobody realizes the two assets are in fact the same asset, can they not be both held on the banks books at mark to fantasy?
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Why would you hold the **** off-balance sheet if it was good?
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I hope he has cancer and I hope WFC blows the **** up.

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If history is any indicator he had nothing to fear from the law, so he had a conscience.

Or preping for Geithners job

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How do you resign and take an unpaid leave of absence? If you're not giving notice, you just leave. Unpaid leave to keep health insurance?
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How do you resign and take an unpaid leave of absence? If you're not giving notice, you just leave. Unpaid leave to keep health insurance?


Resign so that you can't speak for the company.
Unpaid leave to keep your bennies, and so you won't speak about the company

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Tallystick, LOL you ought to be a bankster. I suppose an audit MIGHT find that if it were more than just a cursory sampling. If they went that far then they certainly would not file them both under 100 Maple Lane where they could be found together.

ETA A liquidation would certainly find that eventually, as well as maybe clear the title to 100 Maple Lane. Except - what if different banks have the duplicate papers? What a mess these guys have made. These banks must all die.

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A partial quote from the article linked by Bobinator5000:

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Thousands of Wells Fargo & Co. customers were left angry and short of cash Monday after a majority of the bank's 12,000 ATMs nationwide crashed.


No doubt this is also “unrelated to the company’s financial condition or financial reporting.” :)
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This s the time of year when the financial reports are finalized and it smells like a disagreement. With SOX in effect company officers have to sign off in blood and he wouldn't do it
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"Buy the Dip! Nothing's wrong!" say's partner in crime bankster friend:


From WSJ:
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Morgan Stanley analyst Betsy Graseck wrote Mr. Atkins's departure does "not change our view on the stock," and "we see any dips in the stock as buying opportunities.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424....

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I vote for Rktbrkr's answer:

Rktbrkr: "This s the time of year when the financial reports are finalized and it smells like a disagreement. With SOX in effect company officers have to sign off in blood and he wouldn't do it"

& Captainkidd
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Unpaid leave to keep your bennies, and so you won't speak about the company"
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