ISM: First Mess Of The Year - 57.0
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Posted 2011-01-03 10:37
by Karl Denninger
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ISM: First Mess Of The Year - 57.0
 

Here's.....Johnny!

(Tempe, Arizona) — Economic activity in the manufacturing sector expanded in December for the 17th consecutive month, and the overall economy grew for the 20th consecutive month, say the nation's supply executives in the latest Manufacturing ISM Report On Business®.

Uh huh.

The problem in the report is prices paid.  This is the same problem I've been highlighting for months now - and there's no way this escapes having an impact on corporate earnings.

Oh, the crooners will try to discount it, but it won't work.  Sure, the market is up ~2% on the Russell and Nasdaq today, and the DOW is up 100 - but most of it was before the number release.

The brown-nose media at least mentioned the prices paid problem this time around - it only took them six months to come to the conclusion that there might be a problem there. 

The issue remains this - pick your poison, they're both bad.  Either margins compress or consumer purchasing power gets trashed.  In a world where labor is instantly arbitraged overseas there is no way to couple price increases back to wages for the vast majority of Americans.

As such the premise that we can "inflate away the debt" and it will all be ok is idiotic.  It simply cannot happen as the average American does not possess any way to leverage these price increases back into their economic situation and thus grow their purchasing power at least as quickly as prices go up.  This makes it impossible for manufacturers to pass through the increase in materials cost.

As I noted in my 2011 Ticker I believe this will be the story of 2011 that nobody, thus far, has talked about to any material degree.  Yet it is what matters in the end when it comes to the final outcome for the economy.

I wish I could find a way to be bullish on a forward basis, even if it was to come up with some sort of nonsense scenario that took leverage out of the economy by "inflating debt away" as so many have claimed we will do. 

Unfortunately the numbers say otherwise - that the premise that we've all been operating on for the two years has been a false God -  hard assets have continued to decline in value even though their carried price has remained in the idiot zone from 2007 when everything smelled like a rose.

Remember, in 2007 there was nothing that anyone could do that was wrong.  M&A was booming, we had "Merger Monday" every week, Downey Savings and Loan was going to $100 and then $120, Countrywide was going to own the mortgage business and the stock market was going to go up another 15-20% next year.

Instead it all came apart because leverage had built in the system and despite the machinations of The Fed, who tried like hell starting in August of 2007 to stop it, they could not keep the truth from being realized.

We're in the same place today but with corporate leverage at three times the level it was in 2007, unemployment vastly higher which makes it even more impossible to couple price increases back into wages, a budget deficit more than double where it was in 2007 and prices paid are ramping once again.

I wish we were not in this position, and if we had done the right things then we wouldn't be - but we are.

Margin compression - or if you prefer, collapse - will be the buzzword this year.

You heard it here first, starting in the early fall of 2010.

It becomes realized in 2011.

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Angela Merkel is the only one close to acting like an adult these days... (Central bankers don't have testicles)

That isn't really saying much.

My family is personally hurting from the Oil ramp... :(
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Genesis wrote..
...despite the machinations of The Fed, who tried like hell starting in August of 2007 to stop it...
It has been said that the opposite occurred, that the Fed deliberately fueled the downturn so as to scare the pants off Congress. Of course some of Ben's little bear hunts are seared into my memory, but on the whole, what was he trying to do?

Now of course he has a new tool, QE. Is there any evidence he will not increase his reliance on it to defend liquid-asset prices? Won't we have to wait for QE to crack in some obvious way before anything significant will happen to liquid assets?

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Believe what you wish.

Magical thinking worked great for you in 2007, didn't it?

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Actually I tried realistic thinking in 2007 and I made a fortune.

In 2009 however realistic thinking destroyed me.

So why not give magical thinking a try?

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Marc Faber is really like an economic jesus (I am Christian). I don't think this guy is ever wrong. (take my word...however good it is these days). The Swiss are the hardest of the hardcore Deflationists... their history is there. They don't like WAR very much either...

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Gen wrote..
This makes it impossible for manufacturers to pass through the increase in materials cost.


They'll try to, though. I think in the form of "shrinkage", or whatever.. I do most of the shoppin for our house and have noticed more and more that although prices are staying the same on most items, the amount you get is shrinking.

You wrote a ticker on it a while back. I'm guessing we'll be seeing most companies try to pull this off moving forward as input prices continue to increase.

KT


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Gen writes
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Believe what you wish.

Magical thinking worked great for you in 2007, didn't it?


Gen also writes
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Remember, in 2007 there was nothing that anyone could do that was wrong. M&A was booming, we had "Merger Monday" every week, Downey Savings and Loan was going to $100 and then $120


Well those certainly were magical days. I was short Clowney Savings from $62 to about $15 when I thought there were better shorts. Should have been short them and First Fed up to my eyeballs though. When I was in Hawaii for wifes 40th I should have been making 10k a day instead of 2k a day on those clowns.

I'm looking forward to another day when it is that easy to predict losers.

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Karl,

Are you doing Blogtalk today?
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The market is acting like the ISM increased 2-3 points. It went from 56.6 to 57, an increase of 0.4.

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Gloom: No. Have family commits that are in front of it, so no Blogtalk today.

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Golem has an insightful post on what the share pump means to ordinary Americans


http://golemxiv-credo.blogspot.com/2011/....
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His Powerpoint is free (Lew Rockwell is the man!). Click the video description.

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I truly appreciate your effort to anal eyes, these numbers.
But, I can't ever get around, with all the tea in china, to give it any weight, or meaning. Oh course, except for bull****.
WHen the numbers, if accurate, are meaningful, then they become discarded as per the markets.
Quantum physics itself? More like quantum bull****, in this marketplace.

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ISM: First Mess Of The Year - 57.0


Read the above as "minus" 57.0.... thought I slept through the nukes....
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Don Luskin on CNBC explained away the rising prices in the ISM report. His words - company makes something sells someting at a higher price and in turn the next person sells it again at a higher price. They all make more money. Seriously that is more or less what this clown said.

He is correct if:
If incomes are growing faster then rising prices and everyone in the production chain including the final seller of the products/services can raise the price to maintain margins and if the product is elastic enough to prevent(substitutions / redcution in demand) Luskin comment would make sense.

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