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Mpilar
Posts: 5612
Incept: 2009-01-05
Nashville, TN
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Quote:Then again, if there is no law that applies to banksters, should the rest of us adhere to it? NO
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
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-ac-
Posts: 16
Incept: 2010-09-08
Dante's Inferno
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If a person files bankruptcy does that force the banks to recognize the loss?
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The new groups are not concerned With what there is to be learned They got Burton suits, ha you think it's funny Turning rebellion into money
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Dimahot
Posts: 341
Incept: 2007-11-16
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Great ticker, Gen. Thank you.
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Throxxofvron
Posts: 10326
Incept: 2009-02-17
Hyper-Speculative Psycho-Facsistic Parabolic Blow-Off
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OLIGARCHY.
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DIONYSUS: " Thou hast no knowledge of the life thou art leading; thy very existence is now a mystery to thee. " -from 'The Bacchantes' By Euripides “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell
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Soylent
Posts: 129
Incept: 2009-08-27
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America is in that awkward phase, too late to do fix it, too soon to hang the bastards.
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Jake3463
Posts: 770
Incept: 2010-03-06
Allentown
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"The I can lose my job defense is now acceptable for avoiding a trial"
That is cute. Most have had a few of his clients make call to the DAs office threatening political contributions to an opponent or promising them to the DA.
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Quietrally
Posts: 40
Incept: 2009-06-10
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I just called Mr. Hurlbert's office. I live in the county next to his, and he doesn't have an e-mail that I could find. I just left a message to the effect that I had distain for his decision to reduce the felony to a misdemeanor. I also quoted his website which says: "Do the right thing To the right people At the right time For the right reasons" ( http://www.da5.us/)I believe the rot among our public servants is complete. We're fighting an uphill battle, but if you'd like to call Mr. Hurlbert, here are his numbers: Clear Creek County 303-569-2567 Eagle County 970-328-6947 Lake County 719-486-4170 Summit County 970-453-2327
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D+(R/Tea Party ) = Same Outcome
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Pika-steph
Posts: 54732
Incept: 2007-09-11
Live Free Or Die; US Army Est. 1775
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Stop the Looting; Start Prosecuting - http://www.FedUpUSA.org/ "The only regulation that really works is failure."--Rick Santelli
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Donethat
Posts: 771
Incept: 2009-04-22
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Eagle Colorado is a pretty nice place. I would have hoped corruption would have avoided small town America. But then the probability of a sheriff or DAs relative getting convicted of murder is a tad smaller than average whereever you go in the US.
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-ac-
Posts: 16
Incept: 2010-09-08
Dante's Inferno
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Well people should make a complaint to the Colorado AG or the USAG. Good luck with that .... money talks bull**** walks.
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The new groups are not concerned With what there is to be learned They got Burton suits, ha you think it's funny Turning rebellion into money
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9523
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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Forget money, and forget expecting the law to take care of anything. It's clear how totally ****ing lopsided "the law" is.
THERE IS NO LAW!
It's time to start killing mother****ers!!
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Fisticuffs
Posts: 1086
Incept: 2007-07-28
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Maybe the reason he isn't prosecuting is that the victim is going to need a lot of money to pay for medical expenses as well as compensation for pain and suffering. If the defendant is unemployed the victim is less likely to recover monetarily, and he is going to need that money. In this sense it looks like the prosecutor did the right thing.
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B(ern)ank(e)
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9523
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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Fisticuffs wrote..Maybe the reason he isn't prosecuting is that the victim is going to need a lot of money to pay for medical expenses as well as compensation for pain and suffering. If the defendant is unemployed the victim is less likely to recover monetarily, and he is going to need that money. In this sense it looks like the prosecutor did the right thing. **** that bull**** answer! Strip ALL of that ********** "ponzi manager's" assets right now and take whatever money the victim needs, then toss his ass in jail where anyone else would be right now had they done this. Either do that, or kill him! His choice. We either put a stop to this kind of **** right now, or it will escalate into something MUCH MUCH darker than most can imagine! You can "BANK" on that.....
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Mpilar
Posts: 5612
Incept: 2009-01-05
Nashville, TN
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Fisticuffs, if that's the case, I CAN DO ANYTHING...and I'll never go to jail for it.... yeah...let's see how well that works out for me.
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9523
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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This guy went to jail, even though he thought he would walk because he was an ER Doc. This was a HUGE win for cyclists too. There were hundreds of them at the courts during his trial. Quote:
Doctor sentenced to 5 years in prison for assaulting bicyclists in Brentwood
A doctor convicted of assaulting two bicyclists by slamming on his car brakes after a confrontation on a narrow Brentwood road was sentenced today to five years in prison.
Christopher Thompson, wearing dark blue jail scrubs, wept as he apologized to the injured cyclists shortly before he was sentenced.
"I would like to apologize deeply, profoundly from the bottom of my heart," he told them, his right hand cuffed to a court chair.
Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Scott T. Millington called the case a "wake-up call" to motorists and cyclists and urged local government to provide riders with more bike lanes. He said he believed that Thompson had shown a lack of remorse during the case and that the victims were particularly vulnerable while riding their bicycles.
The case against Thompson, 60, has drawn close scrutiny from bicycle riders around the country, many of whom viewed the outcome as a test of the justice system's commitment to protecting cyclists.
Millington said he did not take into account more than 270 e-mails and letters from cyclists that were filed with the court urging a tough sentence.
The July 4, 2008, crash also highlighted simmering tensions between cyclists and residents along Mandeville Canyon Road, the winding five-mile residential street where the crash took place.
One cyclist was flung face-first into the rear window of Thompson's red Infiniti, breaking his front teeth and nose and cutting his face. The other cyclist slammed into the sidewalk and suffered a separated shoulder.
At his sentencing hearing at the county's airport branch court, Thompson cited the Bible in urging cyclists and residents of Mandeville Canyon to try to resolve their differences peacefully.
"If my incident shows anything it's that confrontation leads to an escalation of hostilities," Thompson said.
Thompson, a former emergency room physician who described the crash as a terrible accident, testified during his trial last year that he and other Mandeville Canyon residents were upset that some cyclists rode dangerously and acted disrespectfully toward residents and motorists along the street, a popular route for bike riders. On the day of the crash, Thompson said he was driving down the road on his way to work when several cyclists swore at him and flipped him off as he called on them to ride single file. He said he stopped his car to take a photo to identify the riders and never intended to hurt anyone.
But the cyclists said the doctor was acting aggressively from the start. They said he honked loudly from behind them and passed by dangerously close as they moved to ride single file before he pulled in front and braked hard.
A police officer told jurors that shortly after the crash that Thompson said he slammed on his brakes in front of the riders to "teach them a lesson."
Prosecutors said Thompson had a history of run-ins with bike riders, including a similar episode four months before the crash when two cyclists told police that the doctor tried to run them off the road and braked suddenly in front of them. Neither of the riders was injured.
Jurors convicted Thompson in November of mayhem; assault with a deadly weapon, his car; battery with serious injury; and reckless driving causing injury.
-- Jack Leonard at the L.A. County airport courthouse http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20....
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
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Capeman
Posts: 3703
Incept: 2007-07-12
San Diego
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Well now the doctor can run down the banker with no worry of anything but a misdemeanor.
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"I believe all God's creatures have a soul... except bears, bears are Godless killing machines!" - Steven Colbert
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No1ninja
Posts: 2054
Incept: 2009-08-19
Mississauga, Canada
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Let me see if I understand this correctly.
Joe has a house valued at 500K, the bank owns 400K of it. They foreclose and sell the house at 450K. The bank than takes 400K that they are owed, plus 25% of the 50K, so in total 412.5K from this sale.
The problem then becomes: more foreclosures, lower your asking price.
This is where Ben comes to the aid of his bank buddies with inflation. Your house may go up now, probably not as much as the cost of actual inflation, but high enough so that you feel bound to the title.
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Fisticuffs
Posts: 1086
Incept: 2007-07-28
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The cyclists in the LA incident were not injured nearly as much as the one in Colorado. Not even close. The cyclist in Colorado is the victim here, and if his medical expenses run into the millions I would not be surprised at all. He needs money, and a lot of it. Putting anger and vengeance of someone else who isn't involved in the situation ahead of the needs of the victim is itself a form of injustice -- to the victim. I would think a jury would make sure that the defendant keeps very little of his income going forward, just enough to keep working so the victim can be compensated. That's justice.
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B(ern)ank(e)
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Fisticuffs
Posts: 1086
Incept: 2007-07-28
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Mpilar -- your assertion is ludicrous.
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B(ern)ank(e)
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End_the_bubbles
Posts: 9523
Incept: 2009-03-25
The New 3rd World
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Fisticuffs wrote..The cyclists in the LA incident were not injured nearly as much as the one in Colorado. Not even close. The cyclist in Colorado is the victim here, and if his medical expenses run into the millions I would not be surprised at all. He needs money, and a lot of it. Putting anger and vengeance of someone else who isn't involved in the situation ahead of the needs of the victim is itself a form of injustice -- to the victim. I would think a jury would make sure that the defendant keeps very little of his income going forward, just enough to keep working so the victim can be compensated. That's justice. Dude, you actually have no clue. The cyclists here in CA. suffered dramatic emotional injury as well. Neither of them have been on a bike since, and that was their passion until that fateful day. One of them even worked at a bike shop, but no longer can. I know someone who knows him personally and he's suffering from extreme depression and still has plenty of pain. To compare injury is ludicrous in the context of what is happening here regarding the law (or lack thereof). It's also ludicrous to say to allow this scumbag to "work" (as if he's doing anything of real value as a "money shuffler" for "high net worth" folks) is a bull**** argument. That is NOT JUSTICE! Justice is the guy doing hard time (at the very least). Personally, I'd rather see him & people like him, and those who embolden his kind - ALL PERISH! Any person that is so ****ing callous as to mow down another human being with a deadly weapon (a big car) and then continue on his merry way, but call Mercedes because his precious material possessions are more important - is not a person I feel is worthy to breathe the same air as I do. This **** is going to go Medieval soon. Watch!
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In the long run even the most despotic governments with all their brutality and cruelty are no match for ideas. Eventually the ideology that has won the support of the majority will prevail and cut the ground from under the tyrant's feet and rise in rebellion to overthrow their masters.
Reason: typo
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Otiswild
Posts: 5627
Incept: 2009-03-09
Inside you, the force is!
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Quote: The cyclist in Colorado is the victim here, and if his medical expenses run into the millions I would not be surprised at all. He needs money, and a lot of it. That's what LAWSUITS are for, not plea bargaining a ****ing FELONY ASSAULT CHARGE... He needs money, and a lot of it, and the ****ing bank**** should be assraped for it AS WELL AS ASSRAPED IN A ****ING PRISON WHERE HE BELONGS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did he even file a claim with his insurance company? IIRC they won't pay if you flee the scene of an accident.. This bank**** needs to be duct taped to a chair, trepanned, a bent pipe cleaner on a cordless drill put in the hole, and FRAPPED...
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No1ninja
Posts: 2054
Incept: 2009-08-19
Mississauga, Canada
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I am still wrapping my head around the foreclosure part of this ticker. Okay the banks take a loss as creditors due to inflation. They have to, only the 25% penalty is protected due to it being a percentage.
If there was no inflation, the market for foreclosed properties would overwhelm itself. Add inflation to the mix and suddenly you can sustain the extra capacity to maintain your asset transformation. This is due to buyers wanting to divest out of cash and propped up property values due to inflation. Some may just not go up, but they are still fooling you that you are not loosing money on it.
So by adding inflation to the mix, you prop up real-estate at a cost that everyone endures. Sure you as a banker take a cut, but only as a face in the crowd, because everyone else is taking that same cut along with you (you also have your 25% penalty safety net, so you are floating a little higher than the others).
Inflation is just a way of not letting the system fail, or default. They will use it to retain control, even if that means war and suffering for the rest of us (they would much rather defualt us before the banks).
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Tesla
Posts: 15543
Incept: 2008-04-03
State of Disbelief
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Houses will not inflate. We'll be too stretched buying food, fuel and electricity/heat to buy real estate or shop at the mall.
Inflation in the things you need, deflation in "assets".
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"Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked." -Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
"Neither the wisest Constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." -Samuel Adams
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No1ninja
Posts: 2054
Incept: 2009-08-19
Mississauga, Canada
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They have to. It is true in some places they wont. However, as they keep printing money, you will want to buy before that money is worth less. This is true with cans of tuna, cars or houses.
In fact even if the prices dont budge, dont kid yourself thinking that the inflation did not have an effect on that property. Most likely it would have fallen, but the inflation kept it from doing so.
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