Global: Max Is Either A Nut, Or.....
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Posted 2010-10-13 11:18
by Karl Denninger
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Global: Max Is Either A Nut, Or.....
 

Beware folks...... he may be full of it, but if not, we're headed for a real problem:

Keiser: First of all let's be clear about something. In a lot of scandals, you can point to one guy, Hank Paulson. When he was the CEO of Goldman Sacks, before he became the treasury secretary. As CEO of Goldman Sacks, he unwound many of these mortgage contracts from the Goldman banks, they were the only bank that didn't get caught up in this scandal and then as treasury secretary, he made sure that Goldman Sacks got bailed out from their positions through AIG and other foreign interests.

So there is a clear oligarchy in America, Hank Paulson is from that oligarchy, they are working against the interests of the people of the US. To reiterate my point, Americans at this point don't deserve to have their own country. A lot of big money around the world is going to drop the dollar and basically disenfranchise the US economy. This is not just a remark in passing, this means that the US economy goes belly up effectively and the dollar gets completely wiped out the face of the earth and gold goes to 1400, 1500, 1600 dollars an ounce because the big money in the world is sick of the liars, Tim Geithner, Barack Obama, Ben Bernanke, they are sick of the financial terrorism, they are sick of the grand standing, and they are going to drop kick them over gold post into a sea of their own bad debts. So forget about the specifics here, we are talking about wholesale countrywide loss of their sovereign credit. The US government bond will be about as valuable as garbage.

Grandstanding?

I don't know, but I'll tell you what - the FX this morning is damn violent, Gold and Oil are as bad or worse, and of course dippy is coming in and buying futures and high-tech stocks, along with the very banks that will be destroyed if this is real in the market this morning.

Remember folks, before you dismiss this as the ranting of a kook, that George Soros decided to take out The Bank of England not all that long ago.

He succeeded in his efforts and made a billion dollars at the same time.

I would be very, very careful right now with any sort of financial asset.

IF this is real, and IF this is starting here and now, we're cooked folks unless there's a 180 degree about face on the bogus games along with the rank financial terrorism and fraud.

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Asdqwe
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Well yeah....but it's all about timing. How long before either a failed bond auction or a real dollar crash? Is it 1 month from now or 5 years from now?
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If we had real players, the US wins a last man standing contest. But we don't. 'Cause if we did, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

Strap on your tennis helmets TFers.
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Agreed that Paulson is a KEY man in all the fraud.

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Our financial system is one big fraud factory, but is anyone else really better?
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Coordinated action from outside the country to significantly devalue the dollar makes absolutely no ******n sense at all unless you are a speculator.

I fully expect coordinated action (from foreign central banks) to attack the dollar, but it will be to significantly appreciate the dollar against JPY and EUR.
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The big money in the world is sick of the liars, Tim Geithner, Barack Obama, Ben Bernanke, they are sick of the financial terrorism, they are sick of the grand standing, and they are going to drop kick them over gold post into a sea of their own bad debts.


If this is true, then the US is totally ****ed ... because the strongest force in the US economy today is the Geithner-Obama-Bernanke FRAUD MACHINE ... and its gaining momentum ...
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Once you get a failed auction or dollar crash...it's done - it's over. Interest rates go up, we can't roll the debt over with the higher rates, can't finance our phoney prosperity, real estate drops like rock, and it snowballs into dollar tailspin.

It's rolling over now...they better do something quick - QE2 could push it over the top. Once they do that, and it doesnt work you going to get that oh **** run for the exits moment and the end of America as you know it.
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I know it's in the original, but you may want to correct the spelling of Goldman Sachs (maybe put it in brackets)... crazy Iranians...

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I watched to of Max's recent videos last night.

It's embarrasing to point out the country where MSNBC hosts should to look for decent journalism. These are the videos covering "foreclosurgate".

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Corn brings up an interesting point. This is a relative world. Are others really any better?

Interesting perspective highlighted at Jesse's Cafe Americain:

Financial Times Offers Terms to Rest of World in the Currency Wars
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com....

"....Anglo-Americans to Rest of World: We've a Gun to Our Heads, Better Surrender

"To put it crudely, the US wants to inflate the rest of the world, while the latter is trying to deflate the US. The US must win, since it has infinite ammunition: there is no limit to the dollars the Federal Reserve can create. What needs to be discussed is the terms of the world’s surrender: the needed changes in nominal exchange rates and domestic policies around the world."......"


As for Keiser, he paints a picture that there is a difference between Paulson, Geithner, Bernanke and Obama. I fail to see a significant difference. There was a seamless transfer of reigns from Paulson to Geithner.
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Why are these morons buying gold? You can't eat it and there certainly isn't any historical precedent here... Karl, any thoughts?
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Karl, then in light of this, what is your asset allocation? I remember you giving it a while back and I wonder if it has changed...

That's what it sounded like, just making sure I wasn't off base.

Thanks Karl.

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So, we may be in plan "B" mode. All banksters are going all in the market, and ramping at will.
They have done so well, raising capital, is this fashion. Problem is, if they don't have any other players to buy them out down the road, there will be big swooshing sound, like turbine in your bedroom.

Oil, is the biggest trigger to this fed desired inflation. Getting butt****ed slowly, or quickly, is still being butt****ed.

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QE2 is another bank bail out and the shadow banking system's clients don't want to be paid in freshly printed dollars. The Emperor has no clothes.

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I agree with Bicycle. At some point the world ex US will finally smarten up and join forces for a dollar appreciation blitz. How will the Fed counter? Will we see a global free for all unlimited money print?
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Margin, I am getting very close to going "bug-out", converting all to tangible value items, and deciding that right or wrong, I'm gonna live it out where I don't care.

This is getting very close to going completely out of control - it is FAR worse than what was going on with Lehman.

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Coordinated action from outside the country to significantly devalue the dollar makes absolutely no ******n sense at all unless you are a speculator.


No - governments around the world have been holding extra money in dollars for years. 'Reserve Currency' and all - a shift away from that would trash the dollar, without much wage inflation, and wthout the FED doing any printing. It would SUCK.

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Gen, will you let us know when you go into bug-out mode? Does that mean you will actually be cashing in IRAs, 401Ks, etc.? I haven't done that yet but am prepared to do so. (All-cash? check. Checked ACH tranfer setup to local credit union on TOS? check. Shopping list to convert FRNs to tangibles? check.)

Will you send up a balloon for us?
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Makes one wonder(if Max's claim has any merit) that these foreign central banker muckity mucks are doing their own investigation into things (vis-a-vis the mortgage fiasco), and concluding: "Wait a sec, all these primary banks in the US are going to be 'marked to zero' within a year, what the hell are we doing here?'

<starting to get a funny feeling about all this stuff...

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So what evidence is there that there is or can be successful, coordinated action to move away from the reserve?

The United States is still one of the largest export markets for the rest of the world.

It makes no sense for foreign central banks to collude to destroy the value to the dollar and screw their own export economies. JPY and EUR especially.

It is far more likely there will be coordinated action to devalue foreign currencies against the dollar as the reserve.

That's exactly what happened in the Great Depression. Currencies were devalued against the reserve at the time--gold-- well before gold was dropped as the reserve. Why would it be different this time???

My point is that you need to survive the inevitable US dollar appreciation against every other currency in the world... before you will need to survive the US dollar falling out of reserve status.

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Why in the world in Cynthia McKinney on this show?
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I don't know if this makes any sense logically. The only way this works is if this is being done by countries that hold no substantial US debt. I mean, why would they detonate themselves?!

Besides, while our guys are criminals, the criminals are ALL OVER THE WORLD! The UK politicians and bankers did the same thing; the French bankers and politicians....and Greece and Spain and Iceland and Ireland....well, you get the picture. No bankers or politicians left behind.

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The only way this works is if this is being done by countries that hold no substantial US debt. I mean, why would they detonate themselves?!


Unless there were a ready replacement for the dollar? The SDR has been in use for some time.
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Still wouldn't work. SDRs are backed by WHAT? Bah.

People think they were assraped by US dollar policies - they aren't going to jump feet first into something that has absolutely no backing other than some 'promise to pay' - well, they got that with the USD.

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