Why Do YOU Obey The Law?
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Posted 2010-09-25 12:12
by Karl Denninger
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Why Do YOU Obey The Law?
 

I've got to ask.

It's a tough question, if you think about it for more than the usual reflexive three seconds that Americans typically put to their endeavors.

And it's a fair question too.  Especially given this:

As Washington rushed to nationalize the US auto industry with $80 billion in taxpayer "rescue" funds and avoid contested court termination proceedings, the White House auto team schemed to preserve UAW members' costly pension funds by shafting their nonunion counterparts. The nonunion pensioners also lost all of their health and life insurance benefits.

I wrote about it at the time.  And it wasn't just the non-union pensioners either - it was also all the bondholders, who got buttsexed while the UAW got put "in front of the line" in terms of preference of claims - a place they were not entitled to as a matter of law.

In other words: Obama's team of auto-crats -- stocked with Big Labor-friendly appointees and self-admitted know-nothings about the car industry -- decided to "cherry pick" (one Obama official's own words) which obligations the new Government Motors company would assume and which they would abandon based on their own political whims and fealty. Due process and equal treatment of union and nonunion workers be damned.

Yep. 

The holders of GM (and Chrysler) debt, who were entitled to preference as a matter of law, also got screwed.  Pensions and retiree medical benefits are not entitled to preference in this instance - the usual path is for them to go into the PBGC and get whatever is there to get.  "Topping up", as was done in this case, is commonly called "fraudulent conveyance" in bankruptcy parlance and it is illegal.

But this administration, like the one before it, doesn't give a **** what the law says.

Thousands of non-union workers got illegally ****ed so the union cronies could be paid off.

It doesn't end there, of course.

As I have repeatedly pointed out, starting with the very first Tickers, this sort of looting wasn't confined to a few people.  It was pervasive.  Indeed, in one of the very first Tickers I pointed out this fact about all the abusive mortgages:

But under the fully-indexed rate, which he will be required to pay in a year or so, his DTI is 60%! You know in advance that he cannot make that payment because you qualified him originally, and you knew his DTI at the time. What are the odds that he will earn TWICE as much money in a year? For 99% of the borrowers - ZERO.

You'd say "Heh, that's fraud right up front!" But that's not really the worst of it, nor is it why I believe that perhaps - just perhaps - these guys might have breached the RICO (yes, Racketeering) laws.

Here might be why you made that loan - You know that Joe, in a year, now owning that house, will be forced to come back and get a NEW mortgage in another year! This will generate fees for you, for the mortgage broker, for the appraiser and for the title insurance company.

Got it?

The "industry" knew full and damn well that these loans were unsustainable.  They were not mortgages in the actual meaning of the word and they were fraudulently contracted in that the originators knew for a fact that 99% of the people who took them could not possibly pay as agreed.

I also pointed this out:

A "1003", which is the loan origination document on which you state your income and assets, is the key item here. It is a federal offense to lie on one. As an applicant you have to sign it.

Now here's the problem for the lenders - they have the right to verify the statements you make on these papers. They've not been doing it because they know that it would take too much time and further, I believe they know that they'd uncover massive fraud! Further, taking application is a cost. Lenders only get paid if they fund loans! So it is to their distinct advantage not to verify - and thus have to turn down - these loans.

and

Let me restate that again so that everyone gets it - every single ALT-A lender is at risk of having every defaulted loan - no matter how long it has been since it was securitized and sold off - PUT back on them if there is any material misstatement in the paperwork!

NOW we are starting to see the ****storm I was talking about beginning to happen.

But what we haven't seen is any sort of prosecution of the lenders, all of whom knew FULL WELL that these loans were being issued fraudulently. 

Every last one of the big banks knew.  Not speculatively, factually.

They didn't care.  They didn't care because in the 1990s they pulled the same crap with issuing S1s and IPOs with a boatload of knowingly-false claims about Internet growth and not one of them was indicted for doing it.  These claims were the essence of the business plans presented in these filings and IPOs.

Once these loans started to blow up the fraud was compounded though, because these very same banksters had failed to get rid of the hot potato before it began blowing up in their face.

How? 

First, by refusing to report the loans as delinquent and continuing to mark them to the fantasy belief that they would be collected in full.  This is fraud too - a fraud that was prohibited under "Mark-to-Market", and which threatened to sink the banks.  All of the big banks.  So the "industry", along with Gethner, Bernanke and others, extorted Congress who in turn extorted FASB to make lying about the current values of loans LEGAL, so that nobody would go to prison for doing so. 

President OBAMA put his weight in the form of Tim Geithner behind this and refused to stop it - both then and to this very day.

That act - refusing to count loans as delinquent that are, and refusing to report them to credit agencies - is still happening. I get reports almost on a daily basis from people who have failed to pay for months - and sometimes more than a year - without anything being reported late on their credit.  This too is fraud (filing a false report with a credit agency, either claiming a debt is paid when is not or claiming it is not when it has been) but nobody is being prosecuted for it.  There are literal millions of these crimes that have been committed thus far and thousands more care committed each and every day, all by the major financial institutions.  I believe it is being done so as to support the fantasy model marks of these loans on the books.

Finally, when the cash flow runs out we find out that these very same financial institutions are filing affidavits by the literal tens of thousands that they and their proxies in the law firms they're hiring have not even read.  That's fraud upon the courts and it's fraud upon the homeowners and borrowers - all crimes as well.

But there are even more crimes involved here.  The "lost note" affidavits being filed (in place of the actual wet signature documents) are in many cases also frauds.

The loan paperwork in these cases wasn't lost - it was intentionally destroyed or shipped overseas and is unrecoverable. 

That is, these notes are not "missing", THEY WERE INTENTIONALLY SHREDDED, BURNED, OR PUT ON SHIPS AND SENT TO INDIA WHERE THEY HAVE MOST-LIKELY WOUND UP AS PAPER USED FOR BIRDCAGE LINER.

There is a dramatic and important legal difference between accidentally losing something (e.g. due to a warehouse fire or similar thing beyond your control) and an intentional act of destroying a piece of paper that under the law of the state in which the foreclosure is being prosecuted you are required to possess in order to foreclose.  In the first case equity demands that the court accept your substitute, as something entirely beyond your control has occurred and it is unjust to penalize you for what amounts to an Act of God.

But in the latter case you're entitled to no relief at all, any more than I'm entitled to relief if I burn $100 bills and then try to claim they're "lost."  Well, lost they may be, but the act of destruction was entirely at my own hand, was intentionally undertaken, and I did so with full knowledge that doing so under the laws of the state in question would render the note and security interest permanently separated.

What we now hear is (finally) some attention from state authorities:

Iowa, which leads an 11-state working group of attorneys general and bank examiners exploring ways to prevent foreclosures, opened an inquiry yesterday.

"The integrity of the foreclosure process is of utmost importance and we are very concerned by the issues that have been raised regarding Ally Financial's treatment of affidavits", Iowa Assistant Attorney General Patrick Madigan said.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott opened an investigation "early this month," said Tom Kelley, a spokesman for the office. Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan asked for a meeting with the company and requested information about how homeowners in the state have been affected, according to a statement.

The action by officials in the four states follows an announcement by Florida Attorney General William McCollum, who last month said he was investigating three Florida law firms handling foreclosures.

I'll believe it when I see it.

We've already got proof that these foreclosure mills have claimed the same note in two separate actions, which means that one of them is clearly fraudulent.

But what these states must recognize and demand is that for those instances where a "wet signature" and unbroken chain of assignment be demonstrated (and that's most states), that any entity which intentionally destroyed that chain of assignment and signature has forfeited by it's own intentional act any right of recovery under the statutes allowing foreclosure.

THE RULE OF LAW IS NOT A SUGGESTION AND YOU CANNOT INTENTIONALLY DESTROY YOUR RIGHT OF RECOVERY BEFORE THE LAW AND THEN COME BACK LATER AND CLAIM THE DOG ATE YOUR HOMEWORK WHEN YOU INTENTIONALLY BURNED IT INSTEAD!

These cases - all of them where this occurred - MUST BE TREATED AS THE CRIMINAL ACTS - KNOWINGLY FALSE SWEARING BEFORE A COURT - THAT THEY ARE.

This does not mean that the debt "goes away."  To the contrary.  There's still a debt, but the link to the deed - that is, the unique status that gives the creditor the right to evict someone from their home - has been lost. 

It was lost not by random chance, not by an Act of God, but rather by the willful and intentional act of the creditor, who by his own hand intentionally destroyed that connection.

Therefore, what we have is a common signature loan, and I've already explained how to deal with this.

  • The debt is in fact unsecured, as a consequence of the willful and intentional acts of the creditor who turned the note, by their own hand through that intentional and willful act, into an unsecured debt.

  • The MBS holders were thus defrauded by willful and intentional acts of either the banks themselves or persons under contract and control thereof, who intentionally destroyed the security interest that they claimed to have held at the time of the issuance of the MBS and further claimed they would continue to hold.  Go look at any of these securitization documents and offering circulars - all contain a representation and warranty that the notes taken are in good recordable form and contain a valid security interest.  In many cases this was false at the point of origination as the deeds and/or notes were taken in blank, which is not permissible in many states in the first instance. In still more cases the linkage between the security interest and the indebtedness was willfully and intentionally broken by these institutions when they intentionally destroyed the original paperwork (for those states requiring a "wet signature") and/or willfully and intentionally failed to document each and every transfer of same (for those states requiring an unbroken chain of both title and conveyance of the security interest.)  Between the two requirements this covers most of the non-agency MBS out there.

  • The MBS holders have every right of recovery, but not against the homeowners - against the BANKS and their agents in each and every instance where the banks and their agents broke the linkage between the debt and the security interest.  Their right of recovery for the debt held against the homeowner is that allowed for a signature loan which is what they now actually hold.  They can sue to collect and the homeowner can file bankruptcy.  In states where a bankruptcy exemption exists for a homestead (e.g. primary residence) the homeowner is free to use it.  The rights and limitations accorded these creditors and debtors must be construed in strict accordance with the law.  Where the trustees or originators intentionally undertook acts that violated the security linkage between the note and deed, homeowners cannot be held legally responsible for the acts of a third party who willfully destroyed his own right of recovery via foreclosure

  • Those institutions who sold MBS into the market with willful and intentional violations of the covenants and claims in the offering circulars, or who intentionally did so post-sale, must be held to criminal account.  These are crimes exactly as if you stole money out of a bank's vault in that they represent willful and intentional destruction of the value allegedly contained in these MBS for which the securitizers were paid in good funds.  For those acts taken post MBS sale the offense is particularly egregious in that the MBS holder certainly neither consented or had a way to know before he or she purchased that MBS that their security interest would be wantonly and willfully destroyed.

  • The states need to start doing their damn job.  Where violations of criminal fraud statutes have occurred, including frauds upon the court, frauds upon homeowners where assertion of a valid security interest is made that does not actually exist as a consequence of the willful acts of the creditor and his or her agents, along with other violations of statute criminal indictments must issue and any judgment issued against a person in these states as a consequence of these frauds must be voided.  The title issues that have resulted from these willful and intentional acts make it damn near impossible to know that any home sold or resold in the last five years has an actual clean, marketable title.  This has to be resolved and the securitizers and MBS trusts must be held accountable for cleaning it up - financially and otherwise!

If the government - at all levels - state, local and federal - wants we, the little people, to continue to obey the law, instead of declaring that we will act as they have acted, that we will rob and pillage to our heart's content - then this **** needs to be stopped RIGHT NOW and the millions of Americans who have been repeatedly assraped as a consequence of this crap must be made whole.

I am well-aware - fully so - that doing the above will likely force Sheila Bair at the FDIC to exercise her alleged new-found "resolution authority" for some, if not all, of the major banks.  I'm also well-aware that there are many large foreign banks that would likely be severely impacted or even collapse as well.  And I'm well-aware that such would produce a significant but short term dislocation in the economy.

Nonetheless, it has to happen if we are going to fix what's wrong with our economic system.  We must clear the excess debt from the financial system that was originally issued and has been covered up through the direct and indirect machinations of fraud, if we are to ever return to a stable economic path. 

Finally, beyond the realm of practical necessity, there is the matter of justice. 

You cannot have a productive nation in which a handful of people get to financially******the population any time they'd like, irrespective of laws allegedly forbidding same, and expect that the population at large will sit still for this on an indefinite basis.  Eventually the pain they are forced to endure as a consequence of this abuse will become so severe that they will judge that they have nothing left to lose - at which point all resemblance of the public's willingness to live in a fashion that comports with "law and order" WILL VANISH OVERNIGHT.

There IS a breaking point for the people in this country. 

There IS a point beyond which the people will simply decide that lawlessness is the best, proper, and highest use of their resource.

The longer the government continues to allow the "big players", including itself and its favored cronies, to keep abusing the people the higher the risk is that a critical mass of Americans will simply decide they've had enough of this **** and will not take it any more.

History tells us that there will be no warning before that critical point is reached, and that once it is reached there is no turning back, there is no ability to apologize or negotiate, and there is no ability to "fix it" - that all such considerations once beyond the "event horizon" go out the window.

I do not know where that point is in America, but this much I do know: I DO NOT WISH TO WITNESS IT.

STOP THE LOOTING AND START PROSECUTING!

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Gen said:
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There IS a point beyond which the people will simply decide that lawlessness is the best, proper, and highest use of their resource.


FWIW, personally, that decision has been made. If you sincerely value justice, ethics, and your country, I believe you cannot participate in the fraud that is economic America, 2010. If TPTB will not provide justice, I will provide my own, and if that requires going "off grid", "galt", "rogue" or "underground", so be it.

Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Great ticker KD - it's an individual choice, isn't it?

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Karl,

The rule of law is whatever THEY, the TBTF, can get away with, and it appears that the MeriKan sheeple have let them get away with looting the economy and now the US Treasury.

For most scattered from sea to shining sea, Fraud St. and the District of Criminals seems like some far-off Oz-esque Never, Never Land and they can't even imagine challenging it or the Supra-Elite that are its sovereigns...

As one that appreciates your genius, I know you understand this, but your tone thus far has precluded you from becoming a mainstream phenom...this I hope one day will change, because this country needs honest MEN of GREAT reason and insight to once again take the reins.

The time is almost right for TRUE leaders to emerge and challenge lowest common denominator politics that has enveloped the USA since Wilson and the Progressives -- Call it the fourth turning, or the New Age of Reason, or the Tea Party Movement, or whatever, but the sheeple are stirring in their shackles...

I sincerely hope that soon, those of us who KNOW that the ethical and moral constraints that once made this country great have been lost, CAN set aside petty differences to make a stand together, and expose the pirates, looters and moochers for the poison they are, working TOGETHER to restore NATURAL LAW that established this country under the Declaration of Independence.

And no, it will NEVER happen via the (D) & (R) hegemone.

Time is running short and the experiment is collapsing...

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"There IS a point beyond which the people will simply decide that lawlessness if the best, proper, and highest use of their resource."

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I was sitting at a bar the other day, cute girl I'd been flirting with for a few weeks and I chatting it up.

I asked her if there was a meteor heading for earth, would she want to know. Her answer was no. She wasn't so cute anymore. She chooses ignorance.

I've told friends, family members, colleagues etc what is waiting for us. They pretty much have the reaction of that girl.

So when will they wake up, the day the power doesn't turn on, the cable isn't working, the grocery store isn't open etc.

Than you will have a rabid angry insolent mob with no idea who or what to attack.

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the day the power doesn't turn on, the cable isn't working, the grocery store isn't open etc.


Y2K...?
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About the only thing that wakes up the sheeple is a hungry belly or not being able to watch TV.
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I find it ironic that in some cases the bondholders were clearly subsidized, for instance in the case of The Banks, yet in other cases the bondholders were defrauded, as detailed above.

Apparently, whoever is having incestuous relations with The Government at the time gets to have the law violated in their favor. Which means one thing: There is no law.

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Which means one thing: There is no law.


As thoroughly chronicled by our host (and some others), your assertion is amply documented.

I appreciate the ramping tone of the rhetoric now churning from the Tickers, but continue to doubt there will be a general dawning awareness of the facts on the ground before the mechanism breaks down. I wish for no such thing, of course, but see no reason to alter my expectation at this point.

I will continue to spread the word to all I encounter who have the awareness to take in painful realities, but their numbers are overwhelmed by those who continue to choose ignorance and denial.

Prepare, prepare, prepare.

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Believe me, when Munger and Buffett both come out and try the same **** in the same week, THEY KNOW.

And so do the rest of the "powers that be."

Nobody with real power issues such a pronouncement unless they are genuinely concerned they're going to shortly wind up served for dinner, and if that thought is showing up at the level of Munger and Buffett, we're not far from the tipping point.

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The purpose of a banana republic is commercial profit by collusion between the State and favoured monopolies, whereby the profits derived from private exploitation [of consumers] is private property, and the debts incurred are public responsibility. Such an imbalanced economy reduces the national currency to devalued paper-money.

Kleptocracy, government by thieves, features influential government employees exploiting their posts for personal gain (embezzlement, fraud, bribery, etc.), with the resultant deficit repaid by the native working people who “earn money”, rather than “make money”. Because of corporate manipulation, the government is unaccountable to its nation, the country's private sector–public sector corruption operates the banana republic, thus, the national legislature usually are for sale, and function mostly as ceremonial government.

...a money class fleeces the banking system, while the very trunk of the national tree is permitted to rot and crash...

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Isn't MERS at the center of all this.

And, the sheeple will not wake up in this country until we get our very own Hitler.

Merikans are simply too ignorant and lazy anymore. Think about how many intellectually curious people you know and are in your family.
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The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, which obliges every one: and reason, which is that law, teaches all mankind, who will but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions -- John Locke 1690

WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. -- Sons of Liberty 1776
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Hmmmmm. Okay, I'll bite. I obey the laws when they're personally beneficial to me. For instance, I stop at stop signs and red lights. It lowers my chances of sudden death due to vehicular impact. I'm not real observant of permits for building things like chicken houses or putting a new roof on my house because that's just a case of the county digging into my wallet, not safety. Obeying laws that nobody else (especially criminals) obey(s) and unfairly handicapping myself is stupid. I've never obeyed laws that say that it is illegal to carry concealed. I don't get all in anybody's face about it, I just quietly break the law. Anybody that thinks that I'm going to report any cash sales, whether for a car, a horse, or livestock to the government is nuts, particularly when none of their people are paying taxes.

The state, county, and feds can pass all kinds of laws. Most of them are disregarded.

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"If you keep looting, will start shooting!"

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The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters...
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How many people around you drive their motor vehicles in a fashion that anticipates what the "other guy" might do? Few, right? So how can they possibly anticipate an outcome in the economy they're not creative enough to even contemplate? The extent of anticipation these days lies with their fantasy football league.

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Where's Bezzle with the burning 1040? LOL

Seriously, though, I've been telling people for a while now, "The government has decided that they are going to selectively enforce laws. Therefore I have decided I will selectively obey them." We do not have a legitimate government. Why should I participate in this sham?

Who is John Galt?
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There will not be a critical mass as long as people continue to hold out hope that they will get the handouts they've been promised.

Once the government is no longer able to maintain that illusion, however...
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STOP THE LOOTING AND START PROSECUTING!


Is it possible ? this will take long time, consume resource and might end up with a whimper.

Are there better ways to deal with all the non-legal + legalized theft instead of just focusing on the illegal one ?

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I don't obey the law. I take practical steps to avoid the application of overwhelming coercive force.

The reason why I don't murder, rob, rape, etc. has nothing to do with the law.

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I knows it is minor but it makes me feel better to tell any of my law enforcement accuaintences that they are just glorified enforcers for the high cast criminal class, shaking down the low class citizen for the sake of a few bucks and intimidation. I also let them know that they will eventually have to make a decision on who's side they are really on. If the law enforcement community had their heads on straight they would go out of their way to turn the table , they could finally start to get the general populace on their side and mop up some sewage at the same time, but unfortunatly, a dog always returns to it's own vomit.

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I generally am a law-abiding citizen. I believe that two wrongs don't make a right.

I'm also a contrary - I like being an honest stockbroker :) I've been acting as a fiduciary would, long before it ever came up in a regulatory scheme. I'm honored that my clients trust me with their life savings.

That said, I'll drive 65 in a 55 where that's common practice on country roads early in the morning ...

N/honesty is like pregnancy - you either ARE or you are NOT

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"There are fluctuations in the market that don't mean anything."Ira Gluskin, February 14, 2012

Jtmo3
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Incept: 2009-07-31

Missouri
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Great ticker Gen. I wish I could agree with a certain part of it though. People will NOT wake up to this **** and do anything about it. Fantasy land UNTIL the floor drops out and they are eating **** because that's all there is. Until that day comes, the looting will continue and a few voices like yours will be but a dribble in the pond.

It truly sucks but if history is any guide, you can expect the looting to continue for the money powers and the little guy will suffer. It's that golden rule again. And I see nothing that's changing any time soon. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Jal
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Incept: 2009-03-25

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Corrective actions will/can be taken by the institutions that are being pressure by the demands of distributions from their savers.
They have the legal and accounting experts already on their payrolls.

If they cannot or will not start legal procedures then don't expect to much from individual or class action suite.

jal
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