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Dirtyshirt
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".... as they really aren't much different than the Irish, Poles, Italians and other Europeans who were in the country illegally 100 years ago,save the fact they don't need a boat to get here...."

One hundred years ago there wasn't a welfare system to abuse or the staggering costs to States to accomodate this, "boatless" illegal.
Remember, government estimates have it at better then 12 million illegals. It's likely to be how many more??
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Where top meets bottom sign looks like it was hit with something like a smudge tool or blur effect (those larger checkerboard-like unfocused areas).


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Like the rest of you, I don't know the truth behind this sign. However I would give a low probability that it actually is what it appears to be. I would think that any Hispanic who could write colloquial english that well would also know how preposterous it sounds.

If it is 'shopped, I bet the original will turn up eventually.

Whatever.

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I think Paulson and Bernanke knew early on that Wile E. Coyote had already run straight off the cliff, so they chose to focus on frantic efforts to slow his descent before J6P notices the "gravity" of what has happened, hoping that the proles won't panic telegenically on the way down.
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@stover - the characterization of the leech****s didn't come from fevered imaginations; it came from what the LFs are actually saying and demanding. And yes, they ARE that in-your-face and they ARE that blatant about their intent to steal what you have and make it their own.

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"People in the East have no clue about what is going on with this issue."

You obviously have not been to the DC Metro area.
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Immigration has been an on off matter over that hundred years. There have been many bans and quotas and periods the gates were thrown open briefly. It's not simple. Before WWI there wasn't even such a thing as a passport. It was a world we can hardly imagine.
Real or false that sign shows the anger and incivility is so extreme we are not far behind the Greeks. Our riots have been small and scattered and mostly unreported. I know of at least 3 incidents on May Day. This is the same thing that happened on the summer of 1967. To look at network TV you would have thought the only riot was in Detroit and a few other small minor disturbances. They covered up there were significant riots in about 200 cities.
If we catch up to the Greeks I am afraid we will quickly surpass them. Our police are very militarized now and the population is heavily armed. All it will take is the sound of one gun shot to break the restraint even if nobody can tell where it is from. They will assume it is the other side.
I plan on being able to hunker down and stay off the street if things get crazy.
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posted on the Snopes discussion of this sign:

"The slant of the letters on the sign, the closeness together of some of them... It COULD happen in real life, but it looks much more like words written with a graphics tablet in image editing software. Again, it's hard to articulate exactly what about it looks so fake to me, except to say that I've written with a graphics tablet in photoshop on many an occasion, and it always comes out looking like that.

The other thing that clues me in is uniform width of line and uniformity of color. There is no variation of shade in the line to indicate that it is written upon an unevenly lit surface. You'd also expect to see some variation of shade just from variable pressure on a marker - I'm presuming this was supposed to be written by marker. This would also lead to variable line width. The only variation in line width is where they've drawn over the same line multiple times."
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I'n not in a big city, and I'm increasingly pleased with my decision not to live in or near one. Unfortunately large numbers of people in those places are utterly dependent and in crowds the risk of the group going "prompt critical" is very real.

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People in the East have no clue about what is going on with this issue.


Obviously You have not been to nor conversed upon this issue with residents of NYC or Boston in the last 20 Years.

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Where is the person who took the photo? He must be watching everyone comment on it. Why no comment from the photographer anywhere? (that I know of)
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I took that sign as satirical. If it's for real... wow.
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Where is the person who took the photo? He must be watching everyone comment on it. Why no comment from the photographer anywhere? (that I know of)


Rumor is that a LEO took the photo.
Their Commanding Officer and the United States Government in NO Way wants this issue to be commented upon by Whoever is Responsible for this image.

Just image the turmoil that would result from Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric plastering this all over the MSM and having and interview and discussion with the Photographer about the image...

Silence is Damage Control.

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If I was an LEO I'd take the damn photo too! If dead cops start showing up I have one mug to match against possible suspects!

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Two years ago all the demonstrators had Mexican flags. Now they all appear to be US flags. That speaks to me that these are very much events organized at a higher level because the Mexican flags in the US were so invasive and offensive they were counter-productive and distracting from their message.

Anybody know the story on the switchero?
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We'll probably know who that guy is by the end of the day.

(My money is down on him being a foot-solder in some slither frontgroup with ties into Soros' network.)

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I imagine that this photo is about as representative of this group as the "Obama is a ******" photo is from the Tea Party rally.

Although my favorite is actually the "Don't take away my medicare for your socialized medicine!" sign.

Anyway, point is, there are always some nut jobs at any rally.

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You obviously have not been to the DC Metro area.

You got that right. I have more illegals in my town of manassas park, va. than many towns in Arizona have in theirs. Let's just say that last time I was in San Diego in 2008 it was like a ****ing vacation from illegals it's so bad here in this area. No hyperbole either.

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Adreniline Junky sayeth:
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I imagine that this photo is about as representative of this group as the "Obama is a ******" photo is from the Tea Party rally.

Although my favorite is actually the "Don't take away my medicare for your socialized medicine!" sign.

Anyway, point is, there are always some nut jobs at any rally.


I think you nailed it.

I got curious and played around with the pic, too. When I boosted contrast, I noticed the individual holding the sign in question had words on his t-shirt. Hmm.

On closer inspection, it looked like it might be the word "Legalize"

For grins, I googled t-shirt and "legalize". Guess what the only meaningful hit was, with an exact font match?

Ya just can't make this **** up.
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I think Paulson and Bernanke knew early on that Wile E. Coyote had already run straight off the cliff, so they chose to focus on frantic efforts to slow his descent before J6P notices the "gravity" of what has happened, hoping that the proles won't panic telegenically on the way down.

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Holy ****!
Buck350; I think You might have spotted an Illegal Gaylien!

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Good eye for the queer guy, Buck.

<snicker>

*ahem*

This tends toward my hunch; he appears to be generic leftist infantry -- and few of that type are better networked than the gays.

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That also tends to imply that the sign is real though...

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(Yup.)

I never doubted it. It was too blatant not to be real.

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No it's just Tea Partiers we need to worry about.



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To my view the top printing was not done by the same person as bottom . Tooo many same letter mismatches .
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Sorry, but have to be a contrarian here. I think the sign actually holds a lot of the sentiment seen and heard at La Raza rallies and in their literature. How's that for a 'Fake But Accurate' damnation if the sign turns out to be Photoshopped?

Just Google search La Raza images. (http://www.google.com/images?q=la+raza....

I especialy like the "Whites get out. This is ARE land" poster. But many of the other images hold the same theme - you are here on our land. And if we can't do anything really effective to get you off of it, you at least owe us for it (hence FREE). Other good ones are 'The Latino KKK' and many others touting that kind of theme.

Whether the sign is authentic or not, it doesn't seem out of the realm of the sentiment of the radical La Raza stated intent. I think this organization beats out the NAACP as the most biggoted (and racist?) formal organization in the US. (Ok, also in close running are the KKK and skinhead types.)

I can't say that I personally know a lot of illegal (criminal) aliens - whether anglo or latino. But more than a few of my relatives are from Latin American countries including my mother, my grandfather (Bogota Columbia), my sisters husband who is of Mexican descent, and my uncle from Cuba. I completely understand the desire of Mexicans and South Americans to come to America for a better life - just like they did. But we DO have a system. Both of my parents are Legally Naturalized citizens. Change the system, don't blow it off. It completely cheapens and negates the meaning of folks going through the process of becoming an American Citizen.

We do need to make it a more streamlined system. But so far as I know, we are still a soverigen nation and by right have a responsibility to control the flow of those who intend are coming here - whether they become citizens or not. All are welcome to apply, but not all ARE welcome to stay (criminals, rapists, drug smugglers, etc.).

There are those - as in the radical elements of La Raza - that whole heartedly support the sentiments of the sign in question, whether it is a real sign or a 'shopped' one.

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