(Another) Cautionary Tale
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Posted 2010-01-11 11:59
by Karl Denninger
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(Another) Cautionary Tale
 

There has been a tremendous correlation between dollar weakness and the stock market's strength stretching back to when the initiation of the apparent dollar carry at the beginning of last year (2009.)

But starting in December this correlation broke down, as the following chart shows:

Here's the concern, as outlined by a zoom-in:

Note that we went - almost instantly, and with very little "transition" - from a negative correlation (that is, dollar up = stocks down and vice-versa) to the inverse, but with a few day delay in the stock market response.

Why is this important?  Primarily because of this chart:

Note the support shelf.  It's rather important, and this morning it broke - hard.

Now this may be nothing, but that move upward may also be nothing more than a retrace - otherwise called "a bounce" - from the more than six-month decline.

If it is, we are about to enter a really nasty downturn for the dollar, and if the correlation stays positive instead of inverted with the stock market, equities may well get a truly ugly surprise.

This pattern is somewhat nascent, but it ties in with the huge inverted head and shoulders that is found in the long bond, shown here:

Sharply-higher long rates (in this case, targeting 6.8%) are not positive for equities at all.  Besides the fact that higher long rates compress multiples in the stock market (due to the yield being better on bonds) it also impacts borrowing costs for everyone.

This move would also imply 30 year mortgage rates around 7.5%.  A current $200,000 loan financed at 5% produces a payment of $1069.18 for principal and interest.  The same payment financed at 7.5% buys only a $153,868.48 house, or a nearly 25% additional decrease in every home's value in America.

Does this outcome have to happen?  Of course not.  But the "stars are coming into alignment", with oil recently breaking a pennant flag that targets $100/bbl:

All-in-all this appears to be a time to be extra-vigilant, to protect profits and if initiating new long positions to do with both tight stops and smaller-than-normal size. 

With earnings kicking off this afternoon, complacency (as measured by the VIX) back where it was in the latter half of 2007 and everyone prognosticating "great things" for both the markets and economic recovery, divergences such as this are unwise to ignore. 

History says that strong upward moves do not die on bad news - they die on good news that "isn't good enough" when traders find themselves without proper protection for their positions, lulled into complacency and salivating at all the "long side" profits they are sure will be imminently forthcoming.

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Drench
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$6 gas this summer in Texas?
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If loan intrest rates go up. Does that mean intrest rates for savings accounts rise from 1-2 percent to 3-4 percent? What about CDs etc..???
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Drench
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No. The profits aren't for you and me. They don't have to give us interest anymore. That's done.
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I guess I don't need to lend the banks my money. I'll park it somewhere else.
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The same type of correlation breakdown occurred in MAR-APR, when both dollar and stocks were rocketing up. Duration is similar...so not sure the latest month means anything.
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Karl, Superdude got me thinking...do you think my "G FUND" rate of return is goig to go up significantly? It went from 2.875 to 3.5% like a week ago, a pretty big jump. As I understand it, the G fund is based on short term treasuries?

http://www.corepuncher.com/misc/fundshee....

I'd be curious what you think, in general, about the G fund. Are rates likely to go up or down, is it safer then other treasuries, etc. Apparently, you get the higher rates similar to 10 yrs but based on shorter term notes. I don't understand how it works but it seems to work fine for now!

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The "G" fund is a "special" sort of Treasury that is availably only to people with access to the federal teat 401k equivalent smiley

I don't know exactly what it holds except that it is all Treasury debt - no information on duration or the exact characteristics.

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The fact sheet on G fund is quite interesting. I guess it should remain safe, after all, half of congress probably has money in it!

http://www.corepuncher.com/misc/fundshee....
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Yeap.

IF the government was to offer an "annuity" option this is the one that I, for one, would demand that they make available.

Somehow I suspect this isn't what they have in mind!

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I don't think you guys are giving enough consideration to the fact that the government could just go broke. Or be overthrown. How would you like to have been holding Roman treasury notes. You might be better off with top rated corporate debt.

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TMD -
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"top rated corporate debt"


Rated by whom? Any raters around that you trust?

EDIT TO ADD: I'm not saying you're incorrect, but I don't see how one can be comfortable with "top rated corporate debt" either.

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Oil to 100 now? :-(

The early morning front page on Yahoo Finance said something about China's exports being back up, raising markets worldwide. If other parts of the world really are recovering, I think we'll see oil back at $147 in the not too distant future, like this summer.

I've been really*****ed off the last few weeks, because I'd like to top off my tank again, but gas has jumped from $2.35 to $2.80 here. (Worse than that, really, since a few stations had a price war going, and I got a whole tank at $2.20.)

I guess I may as well top it off now, though.

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A tank of gas is small ****, No?

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Depends on the size of the tank.Round here they get pretty big.

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Top rated corporate debt - rated by me. Might be a better bet than treasuries. Just saying.................

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Mcmwest wrote..
Depends on the size of the tank. Round here they get pretty big.

Yeah - I don't notice it much... Here is my Maryland vehicle line up:

30mpg Subaru with one bald tire (waiting for a decent used one)
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