Oh No..... (To The US Government - This Is No Joke)
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Posted 2009-12-07 14:32
by Karl Denninger
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Oh No..... (To The US Government - This Is No Joke)
 

Look, I know people have said that Iran's Ima-dinnerjacket has in the past not really meant that he intended to nuke Israel to Mars the moment he got his hands on a bomb.

I realize that many think he just wants peaceful use of atomic energy, even though he has claimed - in public - intent to enrich to 20% U235, a level roughly sufficient for a (fancy) implosion-style nuke, but more importantly, roughly sufficient to build a fast breeder reactor which can produce Pu239 (simple and easily-extracted bomb material, since it can be chemically separated.)

But I have never seen anything quite like this attributed to him - yet.

Ahmadinejad reportedly claims he has documented evidence that the U.S. is blocking the return of Mahdi, the Imam believed by Muslims to be the savior.

"They have devised all these plans to prevent the coming of the Hidden Imam because they know that the Iranian nation is the one that will prepare the grounds for his coming and will be the supporters of his rule," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying.

I hope you wake the hell up to what this nutjob is saying.

Radical Muslims believe that the "Return of Mahdi" is the Muslim equivalent to the second coming of Christ.

If this is an accurate quote then we must assume that Iran has an intention to remove that which is preventing the attainment of what, for Muslims, is equivalent to the Christian Rapture!

Folks, I am willing to give almost anyone the benefit of the doubt when it comes to international affairs.  After all, what we do inside our borders is our business, and we must respect that which we demand of others.

But religious fanatics are not rational.  They cannot be reasoned with.  Their threats have to be taken at face value - whether you want to or not.

It is my opinion that Imadinnerjacket has just threatened to nuke The United States, and he is clearly acquiring the material necessary to do so.

I pray I'm wrong but I fear I'm not.

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Cetera
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I, too, pray you're wrong, but I also fear you're not. This goes back a couple of years to that "World Without Zionism" conference that he was at. Thinking of that still sends gives me the chills.

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****.

I guess Obama is not the Mahdi?


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bahahahaha....what a joke. And you spread this ****??? If anyone IS behind the manipulation, its the same bunch that has brought us to where we are today. Think about it, and ban yourself for bad behavior.

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It is my opinion that Imadinnerjacket has just threatened to nuke The United States, and he is clearly acquiring the material necessary to do so.

That is a bit of a stretch don't ya think? I missed that part. Where did he say was going to nuke the U.S? That's not even possible. I'm just wondering how those protest are going over there today. The youth of Iran need to stand firm. The leaders of that country are hardheaded, hopefully they can be swayed without too much trouble. Same here as well.
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Karl,
Less than a year ago, you personally would have banned this as serious "tinfoil" drivvel. What gives?
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I have this fear of a missile launched off a tanker one day that sends us back to the 18th century. Some people effect of an EMP are overstated but it still concerns me.

I wonder how fast the world would come and help power up America and what they would want in return.

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Let him produce his "documented evidence" and start really working up the muslims and I'll be a lot more concerned. He's run his mouth so many times about so many things... I'm not saying I dismiss it, but I certainly don't think it deserves a whole lot of "freak out" feelings.

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Where did he say was going to nuke the U.S? That's not even possible.

It is not possible?

Utter and complete bull****.

(No, he couldn't SHOOT us, but if you think it is not possible to get a device into the US, well, on that count you're just plain wrong. It wouldn't even be difficult, and considering that Iran doesn't CARE if it's traced back to them if this quote is accurate....)

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What part of "shall not be infringed" was unclear?
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I have this fear of a missile launched off a tanker one day that sends us back to the 18th century. Some people effect of an EMP are overstated but it still concerns me.


An EMP would not have nearly the effect that William Forstchen envisioned in One Second After.

And if Iran launched a missile at CONUS, Tehran would be a glass parking lot even before the boosters cut off. We still have "boomers", and I can guarantee you they are not all rusting in harbor.
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Iranian govt are the ultimate jaw boners. They say all kinds of crap. All the time. Nobody believes them.
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I wonder how fast the world would come and help power up America


I hear Power Transformers have long lead times and can't be manufactured quickly... six months to a year.
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Nothing to fear from the Religion of Peace....

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I think you are over reacting Gen. He says stuff like this all the time, he is not even the real leader of the country. He is like the John Hagee of Iran.
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I assume from his view Israel and the US are one and the same. They will hit the hated Jews first most likely. Obama and company will sit and listen to what the man says and then assert it isn't what he believes to his face. Reality is what they say it is. When you have two reality deniers ignoring each other it can't come to a good end. After they use the nuke perhaps the denial will end. If they do use the nuke on the US maybe they will hit DC with Congress in session. In many ways that would be the best thing they could do for us. Iran as a nation would probably not exist three days later.
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FWIW, equally so, there is a significant group of "fundamentalist christian agitators" working to speed Christ's coming. In their view that requires that Jerusalem be wiped from the Earth. They are working to remove the roadblocks that they perceive exist to enable this to happen ... certain esoteric prophecies.

Edit

I may be off-the-mark a bit on the Jerusalem part ... may be has to do w/ rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem. I think there are several interrelated "prophesies" in this regard.

I don't pay it much attention because I don't really think God needs our help to decide when to show-up next time.

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So I guess the US ought to help out Israel to 'take of business'?

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Quite possibly true Widg, but they don't also possess a bunch of centrifuges and raw Uranium....

I don't care what some nutjob says so long as he does not also, at the same time, possess the material to carry through on the threat.

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IMHO a Muslem sponsered nuke in the US is just a matter of when, not if.

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http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch....

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In the appendix of Kenneth Timmerman’s book, Countdown to Crisis (page 353), we find a secret 1995 Russian document acquired by Congressman Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) through sources in Moscow. “This chilling document,” writes Timmerman, “confirms in black and white the suspicions the Israelis expressed about Russia’s missile transfers to Iran. There was nothing arbitrary or accidental about the sales; they were Russian state policy.” Besides missiles, the Russians have sent nuclear technology to Iran as well. But Moscow says this is entirely unintentional. So what are we to think?


Look beyond the puppet to the large state sponsor.

Unfortunately I cannot find the quote, but a Russian defector stated that when (not if, but when) a nuclear weapon is detonated on U.S. soil, it will be a Russian false-flag operation under the guise of terrorists. This statement was made prior to the "war on terrorism."

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Will the time soon come to stop building nations, coddling, negotiating, signing U.N. resolutions, inspecting nuke sites etc and just start killing these ****ers?

Something has to be done about all the 10th century religious fanatics in the mid east.

My solution is to build a wall around the entire region, give every living person a knife and let 'em all fight it out. The last man standing gets the entire ****hole. Perfect solution because they all hate each other as much as they hate us.
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Um, dude, that's Fox News. They probably just made it up like they make up everything else the supposedly "report".

Wow. Unbelievable
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I'm sorry but they said the same things about Saddam Hussain and Iraq....that was utter BS and it it has cost us many lives and Billions of $$$$. They have just transfered it to Iran and Imablowjob. He has become the go to guy for the Axis of evil crowd. I am a conservative but this line in the sand bull**** has to stop. We simply can't afford to keep playing world cop. Oil is important and that is why we are there. We as a nation could give 2 ****s about that area of the world with out the Black soup in the equation so we invent an advisary that requires a base there to protect our interest and "world Democracy". How about working on the Democracy here at home first and then get worked up about the land of a thousand kings and there BS. I for one am sick of it.

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This is over the top.

So Iran is going to build how many bombs? At what yield? And deliver it how?

This is typical Ahmadinejad rhetoric and nothing more. They want build one so they can join the club, just as all the other non-nuke countries want. Or at least threaten to build one in order to buy political favor among global superpowers.

Please keep in mind that the majority of Iranians aren't religious zealots - they're rational, and mostly western-thinking. And they aren't stupid.

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