Told 'Ya So (GM: ZERO!)
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Posted 2009-05-31 18:50
by Karl Denninger
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Told 'Ya So (GM: ZERO!)
 

From the WSJ:

Mr. Koch, a managing director at the advisory firm AlixPartners LLP, will be named to the post when GM files its bankruptcy papers at 8 a.m. Monday at the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in New York's Southern District, these people said. He will be the highest-ranking outsider in GM's officer ranks and oversee about 60 Alix employees working for the auto maker.

Hope you sold whatever common stock you had into the ramp job the last few weeks. 

Now here's the bad news:

Assuming a New GM emerges from Chapter 11, Mr. Koch will then sit atop a new, separate management team winding down the "Old GM" that remains in bankruptcy court. In this role, he'll likely report directly to Old GM's board, which will be different from the New GM board.

As the steward of the Old GM, Mr. Koch will help negotiate contracts between the New GM and Old GM for certain services. He'll also lead efforts to spin-off or liquidate Old GM's assets, including the Saturn, Hummer, Saab and Pontiac brands, and as many as 20 factories.

Odds are that if you're a general creditor (e.g. a supplier) you're going to get zero for whatever is outstanding on your book in receivables from GM. 

Sorry.

This will produce bankruptcies up and down the supply chain. 

Count on it.

Oh, and you have to love the report that was on Bloomberg earlier, then disappeared.

Apparently, about 975 of GM's bondholders agreed to the restructuring they sought, holding just over 50% of the debt.

The other one hundred thousand+ bondholders, including individuals who had their children's college funds and personal retirement savings in this debt, had no say, did not vote for this action, and in fact oppose it.

They will be wiped out, recovering about ten cents on the dollar.

Under bankruptcy law it is generally true that a "significant" majority of the debtholders must agree to restructuring, not a razor-thin majority.  Of course the law doesn't seem to matter any more in this country when it comes to bankruptcy (or any other kind of law for that matter) so long as the government wants things to go a certain way, and neither Democrat or Republican parties can take the high road on this matter - they both stink.

The really ugly part of this mess is that had GM been forced into bankruptcy last year when it started reporting monstrous (integer-level) negative earnings recovery would have been decent.  It was only through the profligate lies and fraud promulgated by "propping up" the company that the remainder of the value that could and should have been recovered by the bondholders was squandered.

My view of this entire mess is that GM had no business operating past last summer.  In the 2nd quarter of 2008 GM reported a loss of more than $27 dollars a share, a number that exceeded their share price at the time by nearly twice.

The equity value in the business was at that point declared gone more than twice - period - and there was absolutely no excuse of any sort for any institution that held their debt to allow them to get away with continuing to operate for so much as one more day

They should have had an involuntary bankruptcy petition filed against them; instead GM went on to lose $7.35, $15.71 and then $9.78 in the next three quarters.

There are 610 million (roughly) shares outstanding.  If my math is correct this means that by refusing to perform their fiduciary responsibility to the beneficial owners of these bonds the "major holders" caused to be dissipated over $20 billion dollars of recoverable monies in the form of destruction of the recovery value of those notes! 

The total outstanding debt at the present time is listed as $54.40 billion.

This means that had the bondholding companies that have this debt as part of a portfolio where the ultimate beneficiary is other parties (e.g. your grandma's retirement that happens to in part hold GM bonds through a bond fund) they have, through malfeasance, dissipated approximately 37% of the face value of those notes - funds that were recoverable as recently as last summer!

I don't care who the government thinks they have the right to bully and push around.  You, as a bondholder if you held those bonds in some sort of fund, had every right to expect the managers of those funds holding that debt for your benefit to act in a fiduciary capacity.   They did not and you got screwed as a direct and proximate consequence. 

In my opinion if you're one of the debtholders you need to seek counsel NOW.

This is what I wrote in July of 2007, nearly two years ago:

GM is a company that is functionally BANKRUPT. Right now and here! Look at their balance sheet. They have a negative net worth, negative free cash flow, and negative sales trends! This is a stock that should be upgraded?! Oh hell no.

But - they're a DOW component so if we pump them, the Dow doesn't go down (as much.) Oh wait - we got a problem here; its called Chucky crapped in the bed and the stink has become overpowering! GM and Ford eh? You want a conspiracy theory? Tell me how JP Morgan justifies that call. I don't see it and I ain't buying either of these swirling turds. In fact I have a bear PUT vertical on GM. Bite me JP Morgan; may you drown in your own subprime sewage! Betcha this attempted pump game doesn't last long enough to keep my PUTs from being profitable; I've got a while - longer than GM does!

That PUT vertical paid to the tune of five figures - before the decimal.

Do not expect GM stock to open for trading tomorrow; it should be halted before the premarket trading session opens.  With luck it will trade on the pinks for a while before it is canceled; any new issue will be 100:1 diluted as previously noted in my article of about a month ago, meaning that at Friday's closing price it will be worth just under one cent a share when re-issued.

If you hold PUTs what you get for them will depend on how many daytrading fools there are on the pinks, assuming the old issue re-opens there.  In any event any thoughts you might have had about "grand designs" for the stock's value are nonsense.

The real damage to the economy, however, is going to come from the suppliers - this is a whack that nobody is really prepared for.  Everyone expects GM to lay off more people and close plants, but the ripple effect for suppliers who are owed money by the "Old" GM, and who will not get paid, is going to be particularly severe.

Disclosure: No GM-related positions at the present time; I made my money on that dying pig over a year ago.

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And the US taxpayers get?

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Ilikecoffee: Hahahah, that was a joke, right?

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So, when will the economy feel the effects of the dealer layoffs? SUmmer?
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@ ilikecoffee: Crankshaft.

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And the US taxpayers get?


We get dumber
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I got sad reading that tick instead of getting hatefull.
I know this was going to happen, but come to think of it these are all american icons, what represented this country in the world like westinghouse which is gone to heaven.
Company might be around but the glory is gone.
And noone is being held accountable for all these mess and all the wealth of population that disappeared.
Population is truely lemmings.
I like to start with greenspan, saute his balls feed it to him, befor wrapping the rope
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It's ok, it's all priced in...the effers

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@Nirvan45 Empires.. political and corporate, do not last forever. New ones will rise from the ashes. This is normal, it just never seems so to those who have to live it.

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When the bankruptcy rolls over Im a buyer of GM shares. Its a set up. When gas hits $6.00 a gallon people are going to flock to those small GM vehicles and electric cars. Its a set up. Ima wait for this all to blow over and then Im diving in. 5 years from now Ill be a happy man.....

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How many American companies on the stock exchange were around 100 years ago? Probably not many. The fact is that companies come and go. GM is not even going away but coming back smaller and more efficient. I see this as the dynamism of American society and economy. Well, maybe it is just because I am an optimist at heart. smiley
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Rally on!!

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So what's the market do tomorrow? DJIA up 200? (A serious proposal, given all the lunacy that's been rampant in the market over the last year).
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JPG - DOW 14,000 is the only logical response to GM's bankruptcy...

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How's about this thought. Do ya' think the taxpayers will expect Obama and the UAW's GM to be profitable soon?
Yep, I believe that the Obama Administration just created the perfect "shovel ready" stimulus recipient.
We all know (except the UAW and Obama) that the UAW ass*****d GM into the gutter.
Given all of the laws being broken, ignored, and stepped on.
What "law" is there to prevent Obama from imposing a trade restriction on imported vehicles?
Also, in order to make Gov't Motors profitable. Obama will offer special tax incentives and/or TARP related rebates?
Of course this is wrong on so many levels I can't begin to dissect it.

Therefore I'm short (LEAPS) TM...

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And the US taxpayers get?

The question is: Do the US taxpayers get any lube with it?
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I'm surprised that some of you are bullish on the new GM. Isn't the new GM run 70% by gov, 20% by union and 10% by old creditors? How can such a monstrosity compete and succeed? It won't. It will build the cars the government thinks we should drive not the cars we want to drive.
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I dont even know if they have to go that far. They just have to manipulate gas and oil prices lower till GM starts rolling out small fuel efficient and electric cars the manipulate the prices to where they should be at $6.00 a gallon. When that happens there will be GM with a big smile on their face. People we cant stop this corruption from these criminals but we can make money off it. Im long GM after this BK blows over.....

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My cousin works at the Honda Plant in Marysville, Ohio. Last week there was Grave concern going through the plant because of the impending GM bankruptcy. The problem is that GM, Chrysler, Honda and Toyota use many of the same parts suppliers. The parts suppliers are telling Honda they do not know if they will be able to stay in operation without GM and Chrystlers bizz. This is reinforced this week with 2 parts suppliers filling for chapter 11. The problem is without parts even Honda cant build cars.

This bankruptcy may be a much larger turning point than many realize in this economic crisis.

And to top it off Timmay is in china trying to show how his Magical Math is gonna save the economy.

This is gonna be one Hell of a week in the Markets....Logic and unfixed markets would demand a slum if not dive...

However with these rigged markets and illogical players Im gonna say overall mood this week will be buy, buy, buy, Green shoots GM bankruptcy over now, Buy, rally, buy

None of it makes sense anymore!


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The fact is that companies come and go. GM is not even going away but coming back smaller and more efficient. I see this as the dynamism of American society and economy. Well, maybe it is just because I am an optimist at heart.


You know I have to completely agree. Lets look at the bright side here. Imagine all the new bondholders that'll line up to lend money to the new GM at really great rates. Probably the same ones that just got the royal casaba up the ass. Just picturing GM's rosy future boggles my mind.....

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You just gotta keep the disclosures from now on. Truly the icing on the cake.

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How soon after GM will the suppliers topple? Hours, days?


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Trades: Two already have.

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Toll Brothers is trading only 15% below its late 2007 values, and Hovnanian, while down 75% from the same time period, is still in existence. Predictions of their bankruptcy abounded back when this all started, and their market has almost entirely evaporated, but they are still here almost two years later.

Perhaps some of the same levitation juice the homebuilders use will keep GM's suppliers going...?

I could use me some of that levitation juice...

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"When the bankruptcy rolls over Im a buyer of GM shares. Its a set up. When gas hits $6.00 a gallon people are going to flock to those small GM vehicles and electric cars. Its a set up. Ima wait for this all to blow over and then Im diving in. 5 years from now Ill be a happy man..... "

Tjeffersonghost, I'm wondering about that also. GM already has the electric car technology. If you read up on the EV1 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mot.... , this was the one GM came out with in 1996, the article makes it sound like it never went over that well. The people that had them though seemed to like them if you read the personal accounts, they had quite a loyal following. The new chevy volt, if they can keep the price within reason could be a moneymaker. I doubt that OPEC is very eager to see electric cars go mainstream.
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